Megistomedes
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I am currently translating his book. But I have no idea about what he would think about this situation. I want his permission to translate and share the book. If anyone knows his e-mail can share with me?
Vovim Baghie's E-Mail?
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Vovim is not a High Priest, he left JoS years ago.Bright Truth said:
This is a JoS sermon that talks about ex-JoS high priests and how the priesthood works: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=2365&f=24
serpentwalker666
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Bright Truth said:
He was a man of poor character and his writings are that of drug induced delusions, combined with unhinged spiritual experiences.
Your wasting your time, please re-assess your dedication to translating this, it's not worth it whatsoever.
Rational Satanist
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Bright Truth said:
Who knows or cares? He wrote this 10 years ago, he could be a xian now. If something is not in Library of Thoth it's not officially supported by JoS, like Vovim Baghie's, Kai Purr's and Lucius Dragonwolf's writings. I know these are some people's favorites, but they are nothing but fake poser BS which they made up.
Stormblood
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NinRick said:
The dross is weeded out. He was dross and the Gods see to it that he was removed once it was clear he was not able to overcome himself.
NinRick said:
Most simply have quit simply because they were below the task.
Real clergy like HPS Pythia not only have developed too much power to be toppled out or removed [she went for 20 years straight and so on]. These people cracked under pressure within 1-2 years.
Others have left "simply because". To the public this may have appeared as vanishing but to us, we knew on all cases what happened. For example, Vovim was weeded out when it came out he was doing heavy drugs, alongside other things.
When things were smaller a lot of people had all sorts of bizarre influences, and many were not adherent to the path. HPS Pythia ate the fruit of the promise of this path, yet most others simply vanished for no reason or even actually worse reasons than people would understand.
One recent HP that people may have shocked I kicked out, he had this "10 years ago so whatever it was a game back then" mentality, where they were drinking alcohol to alcoholic levels daily. We tried for 10 years STRAIGHT to help them, advise them, give them incentives to cut off, and stop. They will definitely tell you that we are assholes, heartless, and so on. How many e-mails, care, and love have I given to them to stop, few will ever know.
Eventually none of this mattered and they made themselves a total mess.
Apparently this was not what they wanted to do. In the last years this was derailing affairs too much, and they had to go, since this addiction and other issues have been clearly getting in the path of Satan and His objectives.
Real Clergy will not abandon people.
luis
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You have to understand this was in the beginning of Jos, Pythia was no as advanced as now, She needed help for the groups and it was easier for someone to be HP. As soon as they saw what he truly was he was not a HP anymore. Now as far as I know you need to be verified to have spiritual powers (telepaty) and to be useful here to become HP, now its more strict as it should be.NinRick said:
serpentwalker666 said:
You cannot be a HP and love yourself more than you love Satan or the Gods. The love has to be higher for them than one's self. This does not mean self ridicule, but it is what this is.
Only then the power is given to overcome the necessary obstacles to both advance in power, and stay in power. Putting one's self higher than this is a bad idea for this position and a very bad tactic. None until now who have done any of this, have really mattered, or even survived. It's just the reality of warfare at this point, too. The enemy knows how to manipulate these people.
If this is done, even if one makes this out fine for a while, this means they are not much of a HP nor the full fruit of this opportunity will be received. At worse, this can cause failure and destruction.
Many people in this position have fallen or failed because of how easy this looks in theory but how practically challenging this is in essence. And it becomes difficult the moment people lose it on deceptions that generally deal with loving one's self more than the Gods.
Authentic self
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You have to love yourself, before you love anyone else. That’s how I feel about it! The ancient beings, would tell you that for sure. Not to rude.
Authentic self said:
You are not in a position of any responsibility, care, or power at this point. Therefore, your logic works for you now. Of course, properly loving others or anyone implies loving one's self first.
When you'll have kids or something similar maybe more things about this will be understood in regards to the essence of what I mean.
Authentic self
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Lol why do you have to say I have no power? I see you’re trying to use some gaslighting tactic against me. But it won’t work! 
Authentic self said:Lol why do you have to say I have no power? I see you’re trying to use some gaslighting tactic against me. But it won’t work!
No, it is you being an amoeba and not understanding that the "," mark, connects sentences and verbs. Responsibility, care, power. The sentence is connected.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/comma/
Rational Satanist
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Authentic self said:Lol why do you have to say I have no power? I see you’re trying to use some gaslighting tactic against me. But it won’t work!
You have no idea what that word means, do you? Gaslighting is when an abuser tells the victim he abuses that he isn't abusing him and it's just his idea/delusion, so to make the victim question his sanity and doubt himself. It's not a person on the internet telling you you have no power or you are an immature idiot or whatever else. Because all these may be true. You're speaking of the responsibility of the High Priests as if you are superior than them and you know what they are supposed to do and how they are supposed to be. And you clearly have no idea on that other than your "feelz".
HP. Zevios Metathronos said:
Authentic self said:
HP Zevios said what HP's are supposed to do and you responded with a self-help cliché and how you "feel" about it and projected that feeling to the Gods. This surely refuted his point!Lol. Using the same ignorant definition of gaslighting you used, one could say that you tried to gaslight him here too.
Authentic self said:
I did mean it of course and that's why I did not take it back here either. Explaining why would be a waste of time. I explained to you how your outlook would have been if you understood more of the subject. Just in case...
You are equal to none at discarding wisdom and intelligence thrown at you. You excel very much on this. My last suggestion to you is immediate application to NASA.
Henu the Great
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You are free to be a high priest of piss drinking in your own circles. This place is not for the likes of you.Authentic self said:
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Henu the Great said:
This is the average millennial. Believes feel good postmodern New Age BS, everybody is equal, no hierarchy, no hard work needed...You can see why mainstream spirituality is corrupted, it's no different from what that person believes. They take their feelings and make them a religion and call them "spiritual".
Authentic self
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As I was going to reply to Henu the “great.” I got removed, now why is that?
Authentic self
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You say I started it, you people called me retarded! So that’s when I defended myself and I’m using my freedom of speech. You just completely twisted it. No one has tolerated me enough they attacked me right off the bat. And I don’t even disrespect the Daemons.
Authentic self
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You won’t spin me! If you wanted to how would you do it?
Authentic self
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I’m far from mentally ill. I mean I do things differently, yes I have seen Satan and he was actually really nice, I remember when he came to me and he looked like an Egyptian, I still sense his energy now and again, gives me a bit of an energy rush and it makes me dizzy. But, I don’t say to Satan can you do this for me plus, I’m the type of person who doesn’t really ask for things, I like to do things by myself. Is that okay??? You have no authority over me on how I feel, cut the bs. I hardly don’t evoke spirits anymore then come to me, we also have are ancestors as well. And I still do meditation and all that.
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