The afterlife
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Samantha Walia
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Hi 
I don't know if this is related to the topic but I really need help!! I'm a beginner and I just started Satanic Meditation....I started with the basics....it felt good at first...but now I'm getting headaches.....is that a good or bad sign??
From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...
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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Re: The afterlife
Nicely said En Haradren! Its interesting about what you said about reaching godhead and going back to Duat because of the world not being ready for 'gods'. I didn't really think of that.Hmm...Within the next 10 to 15 years I'm sure there should be a few more of us that would have reached godhead wouldn't those gods put an end to the enemy etc. Satanists that reach godhead go to Duat to handle other things that Father Satan would need us to help take care of. Correct? But I understand what you mean.
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I don't know if this is related to the topic but I really need help!! I'm a beginner and I just started Satanic Meditation....I started with the basics....it felt good at first...but now I'm getting headaches.....is that a good or bad sign??From: Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Re: The afterlife
Nicely said En Haradren! Its interesting about what you said about reaching godhead and going back to Duat because of the world not being ready for 'gods'. I didn't really think of that.Hmm...Within the next 10 to 15 years I'm sure there should be a few more of us that would have reached godhead wouldn't those gods put an end to the enemy etc. Satanists that reach godhead go to Duat to handle other things that Father Satan would need us to help take care of. Correct? But I understand what you mean.
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Deleted member 86981
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So I am familiar with how the after life works and what happens after death and all.
I read everything on the JOS about it.
I understand it is impossible to gain any power while your soul is in the aether and that you need to reincarnate into the world first in order to advance.
Death is stagnation, but does that also aply to ones wisdom or knowledge?
Do people who are dead and who's souls currently reside in the "after life" still get knowledge?
Can they see what is going on in our world and can they learn things while they are waiting to reincarnate?
A persons personality doesn't change after death and they remain the same people, however can they gain experience and knowledge or can we teach them things from the living world?
I have been communicating periodically with a friend of mine, who has passed away september last year. She was depressed throuhgout life and committed scuicide. She was only 18 years old, way to young to go like this.. Any way, I care about her still so with my new knowledge of the spiritual I contacted her soul right after she passed away and asked Satan to take her to hell so she won't be taken by the enemy and tortured further.
This was succesfull and she currently resides in hell with other spirits and such.
I speak to her pretty often and her personality ramained the same, tough it seems she understands much more about the spiritual and the truth now than she ever did.
I talked to her about the spiritual and about demons sometimes when she was alive, but she didn't believe in it back then. About a week after she passed away I spoke with her for the first time after her passing and that time she told me this "I understand what you were talking about now, I can see you are powerful Luka, I understand now what you meant".
She said she could see my soul clearly and that it looked powerful, much more so than that of other people and that she understand the truth now, because she was able to observe it from a higher perspective.
I'm quite sure it wasn't an enemy, but you can never be too certain, however I confirmed with my GD that it was infact her who I spoke too.
She also told me that her energy slowly dissapates over time. Her soul isn't open and thus can't sustain itself properly in the after life. I periodically send her energy to refill her. Only about once a month, so it's not a drain or something. Just like how I donate energy to Satan and the gods I do it the same way to her, but to the gods I do it almost everyday, she doesn't need much energy to sustain her soul, once a month is more than enough to keep her filled with power she said.
In life I had feelings for her, though that was a few years ago and I wasn't really able to experience love properly at that time, so it wasn't completely sincere at that time, but I did love her. She didn't feel the same way, so we were just friends and talked together about stuff. After she passed though she stated that she regrets not being with me at that time and that she does love me.
She opened up about her feelings a lot and enjoys talking with me, since I'm the only human being that she knows who is able to percieve her and actually converse with her.
Since that time I have changed a lot and matured, I gained a lot more knowledge. I still feel love for her though, but not the true monogamous love, more like the love you feel for the gods. That's also why I speak with her often.
This brings me back to my question, is it possible for her to learn things about the truth or to advance in some ways. If I were to perform energy work on her, could I empower her even though she is currently dead?
I am aware of the dangers when dealing with spirits and I know how to deal with miscommunication or enemy deception and also how to deal with energy drain, so not much can go wrong in this regard. Speaking with her has helped me a lot in developing my astral senses aswell, so it definitly works and it feels nice for both of us to communicate like this.
I know it could take hundreds if not thousands of years before she can reincarnate and most likely she will be spending a lot of time in the aether/after life. When I do finish the Magnum Opus (I plan to complete it this lifetime of course), I'll be an immortal too, so waiting untill she reincarnates and finding her in the world shouldn't be a problem.
During this wait how much can she learn while not alive?
I read everything on the JOS about it.
I understand it is impossible to gain any power while your soul is in the aether and that you need to reincarnate into the world first in order to advance.
Death is stagnation, but does that also aply to ones wisdom or knowledge?
Do people who are dead and who's souls currently reside in the "after life" still get knowledge?
Can they see what is going on in our world and can they learn things while they are waiting to reincarnate?
A persons personality doesn't change after death and they remain the same people, however can they gain experience and knowledge or can we teach them things from the living world?
I have been communicating periodically with a friend of mine, who has passed away september last year. She was depressed throuhgout life and committed scuicide. She was only 18 years old, way to young to go like this.. Any way, I care about her still so with my new knowledge of the spiritual I contacted her soul right after she passed away and asked Satan to take her to hell so she won't be taken by the enemy and tortured further.
This was succesfull and she currently resides in hell with other spirits and such.
I speak to her pretty often and her personality ramained the same, tough it seems she understands much more about the spiritual and the truth now than she ever did.
I talked to her about the spiritual and about demons sometimes when she was alive, but she didn't believe in it back then. About a week after she passed away I spoke with her for the first time after her passing and that time she told me this "I understand what you were talking about now, I can see you are powerful Luka, I understand now what you meant".
She said she could see my soul clearly and that it looked powerful, much more so than that of other people and that she understand the truth now, because she was able to observe it from a higher perspective.
I'm quite sure it wasn't an enemy, but you can never be too certain, however I confirmed with my GD that it was infact her who I spoke too.
She also told me that her energy slowly dissapates over time. Her soul isn't open and thus can't sustain itself properly in the after life. I periodically send her energy to refill her. Only about once a month, so it's not a drain or something. Just like how I donate energy to Satan and the gods I do it the same way to her, but to the gods I do it almost everyday, she doesn't need much energy to sustain her soul, once a month is more than enough to keep her filled with power she said.
In life I had feelings for her, though that was a few years ago and I wasn't really able to experience love properly at that time, so it wasn't completely sincere at that time, but I did love her. She didn't feel the same way, so we were just friends and talked together about stuff. After she passed though she stated that she regrets not being with me at that time and that she does love me.
She opened up about her feelings a lot and enjoys talking with me, since I'm the only human being that she knows who is able to percieve her and actually converse with her.
Since that time I have changed a lot and matured, I gained a lot more knowledge. I still feel love for her though, but not the true monogamous love, more like the love you feel for the gods. That's also why I speak with her often.
This brings me back to my question, is it possible for her to learn things about the truth or to advance in some ways. If I were to perform energy work on her, could I empower her even though she is currently dead?
I am aware of the dangers when dealing with spirits and I know how to deal with miscommunication or enemy deception and also how to deal with energy drain, so not much can go wrong in this regard. Speaking with her has helped me a lot in developing my astral senses aswell, so it definitly works and it feels nice for both of us to communicate like this.
I know it could take hundreds if not thousands of years before she can reincarnate and most likely she will be spending a lot of time in the aether/after life. When I do finish the Magnum Opus (I plan to complete it this lifetime of course), I'll be an immortal too, so waiting untill she reincarnates and finding her in the world shouldn't be a problem.
During this wait how much can she learn while not alive?
tapapakiastinseira
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In this world (whether we like it or not) there are strong and there are weak people. I am not talking about physical strength (or even spiritual "gifts") but about the will of a person and how strong they are (in their state of mind) to keep fighting or to keep going on for whatever reasons they have.
There are weak people who feed on others and there are weak people who are just one step before death, who don't converse with others etc etc etc, and just wish to die alone.
There are also strong people though... There are strong people who want to HELP the weak ones (and to inspire the strong ones to help others) but of course there are strong people who are dickheads etc, terrorize others and literally make victims of the weak people.
There are a billion reasons why a person is weak or strong. Most of these are spiritual (if they are connected to enemy religion, if there are spiritual blockages to their chakras, past lives experiences etc etc) but there are also physical reasons (abuse from parents or from their surrounding since childhood etc etc etc etc).
People are not born "randomly" with "random" traits and a "random" personality.
People's traits and personality reflects their past lives and experiences.
If for example I was a very emotional person in my past life, I will also be in this life. However, if in my past life (lives) I was hurt by many people, then I may subconsciously shut off my emotions and be emotionless instead (or have a hard time loving others and be considered cynical).
Now, let's get back to the strong people. There are strong people, as I said who really want to help the weak ones. However! There is a very thin line between helping, and making the other depend on you.
Imagine this: you are in contact with a person (let's call him X) who has horrible friends. You are the only person who treats X nicely, and you try to explain to him that his friends are dickheads etc. X is extremely happy that he found you in his life and eventually he agrees with you, that his friends are horrible, and that he should stop hanging out with them.
However time passes... X is still hanging out with those friends! When you meet (or when you talk online) X complains to you about how these people treat him etc etc... And you keep on telling him to stop hanging out with them. This thing happens again and again, but X doesn't stop hanging out with them. Why does he not? The reason is simple. No matter how bad he is treated by his friends, he always has you, who is the best friend he could ask for, and who is constantly there to comfort him whenever his other friends treat him like shit.
...Without realizing it, X is now dependent on you. If you LEAVE from his life, you will then see whether you really helped X become strong... If X continues hanging out with the same friends, then you did not succeed. But if X stops hanging out with them, even if the only choice is for him to be alone in his life (because he will also have lost you) then whatever you said to X mattered, and X *really* grew stronger thanks to you. X will make new friends eventually, friends that will actually share the same strength with him and will treat him nicely... But that's another story.
I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make here.
Let's take your situation now.
You had a friend, who was weak. You tried to help her (as you were the stronger one, and naturally wanted to help her) but she was not strong enough... or she was not *willing* to fight for life. NO MATTER the reasons (whether it's because she was tied to the enemy, or her parents were very religious or whatever the reason was), she gave up, and committed suicide. Now, you send her energy once a month... every month. That girl is now dependent on you. If you stop sending energy, her soul will dissipate. That girl is not strong enough. You send her energy in hopes of helping her, but you are making her depend on you.
Now, imagine this girl reincarnating in another life, many many many years later from now.
...How weak will she be?
Because if she is dependent on you and your energy, what will she do in her next life, if you are not still next to her holding her hand throughout her entire life so that she'll "eventually" learn how to walk... She won't learn how to walk, if you don't let her hand. Even if she falls.
Of course, in the case of souls, it's very different; if a soul dissipates then there is no "next life".
But how would our world be, if souls reincarnated thanks to us living, sending them energy in order to keep them alive? Imagine all xians and weak people... people who literally gave up their lives. No matter the reasons.
How would our world be, if the strong ones were busy constantly holding the hand of the weak ones?
The point of Spiritual Satanism (and of life) is to constantly better yourself and the Universe. Progress, evolve and at the same time help the ones around you, or the ones you know you can help. Help them BECOME STRONGER, don't help them to the point of making them depend on you.
It may sound "harsh" but so is life. Take wild life as an example. This is reality.
I also suggest you to read HP Zevios's Sermon about drugs that I believe ties up to the "weak-strong" concept for humanity.
Hope this helps.
There are weak people who feed on others and there are weak people who are just one step before death, who don't converse with others etc etc etc, and just wish to die alone.
There are also strong people though... There are strong people who want to HELP the weak ones (and to inspire the strong ones to help others) but of course there are strong people who are dickheads etc, terrorize others and literally make victims of the weak people.
There are a billion reasons why a person is weak or strong. Most of these are spiritual (if they are connected to enemy religion, if there are spiritual blockages to their chakras, past lives experiences etc etc) but there are also physical reasons (abuse from parents or from their surrounding since childhood etc etc etc etc).
People are not born "randomly" with "random" traits and a "random" personality.
People's traits and personality reflects their past lives and experiences.
If for example I was a very emotional person in my past life, I will also be in this life. However, if in my past life (lives) I was hurt by many people, then I may subconsciously shut off my emotions and be emotionless instead (or have a hard time loving others and be considered cynical).
Now, let's get back to the strong people. There are strong people, as I said who really want to help the weak ones. However! There is a very thin line between helping, and making the other depend on you.
Imagine this: you are in contact with a person (let's call him X) who has horrible friends. You are the only person who treats X nicely, and you try to explain to him that his friends are dickheads etc. X is extremely happy that he found you in his life and eventually he agrees with you, that his friends are horrible, and that he should stop hanging out with them.
However time passes... X is still hanging out with those friends! When you meet (or when you talk online) X complains to you about how these people treat him etc etc... And you keep on telling him to stop hanging out with them. This thing happens again and again, but X doesn't stop hanging out with them. Why does he not? The reason is simple. No matter how bad he is treated by his friends, he always has you, who is the best friend he could ask for, and who is constantly there to comfort him whenever his other friends treat him like shit.
...Without realizing it, X is now dependent on you. If you LEAVE from his life, you will then see whether you really helped X become strong... If X continues hanging out with the same friends, then you did not succeed. But if X stops hanging out with them, even if the only choice is for him to be alone in his life (because he will also have lost you) then whatever you said to X mattered, and X *really* grew stronger thanks to you. X will make new friends eventually, friends that will actually share the same strength with him and will treat him nicely... But that's another story.
I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make here.
Let's take your situation now.
You had a friend, who was weak. You tried to help her (as you were the stronger one, and naturally wanted to help her) but she was not strong enough... or she was not *willing* to fight for life. NO MATTER the reasons (whether it's because she was tied to the enemy, or her parents were very religious or whatever the reason was), she gave up, and committed suicide. Now, you send her energy once a month... every month. That girl is now dependent on you. If you stop sending energy, her soul will dissipate. That girl is not strong enough. You send her energy in hopes of helping her, but you are making her depend on you.
Now, imagine this girl reincarnating in another life, many many many years later from now.
...How weak will she be?
Because if she is dependent on you and your energy, what will she do in her next life, if you are not still next to her holding her hand throughout her entire life so that she'll "eventually" learn how to walk... She won't learn how to walk, if you don't let her hand. Even if she falls.
Of course, in the case of souls, it's very different; if a soul dissipates then there is no "next life".
But how would our world be, if souls reincarnated thanks to us living, sending them energy in order to keep them alive? Imagine all xians and weak people... people who literally gave up their lives. No matter the reasons.
How would our world be, if the strong ones were busy constantly holding the hand of the weak ones?
The point of Spiritual Satanism (and of life) is to constantly better yourself and the Universe. Progress, evolve and at the same time help the ones around you, or the ones you know you can help. Help them BECOME STRONGER, don't help them to the point of making them depend on you.
It may sound "harsh" but so is life. Take wild life as an example. This is reality.
I also suggest you to read HP Zevios's Sermon about drugs that I believe ties up to the "weak-strong" concept for humanity.
Hope this helps.
Hove [/IMG]
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From: "tapapakiastinseira@... [JoyofSatan666]"
To:
Subject: Re: The afterlife
In this world (whether we like it or not) there are strong and there are weak people. I am not talking about physical strength (or even spiritual "gifts") but about the will of a person and how strong they are (in their state of mind) to keep fighting or to keep going on for whatever reasons they have.
There are weak people who feed on others and there are weak people who are just one step before death, who don't converse with others etc etc etc, and just wish to die alone.
There are also strong people though... There are strong people who want to HELP the weak ones (and to inspire the strong ones to help others) but of course there are strong people who are dickheads etc, terrorize others and literally make victims of the weak people.
There are a billion reasons why a person is weak or strong. Most of these are spiritual (if they are connected to enemy religion, if there are spiritual blockages to their chakras, past lives experiences etc etc) but there are also physical reasons (abuse from parents or from their surrounding since childhood etc etc etc etc).
People are not born "randomly" with "random" traits and a "random" personality.
People's traits and personality reflects their past lives and experiences.
If for example I was a very emotional person in my past life, I will also be in this life. However, if in my past life (lives) I was hurt by many people, then I may subconsciously shut off my emotions and be emotionless instead (or have a hard time loving others and be considered cynical).
Now, let's get back to the strong people. There are strong people, as I said who really want to help the weak ones. However! There is a very thin line between helping, and making the other depend on you.
Imagine this: you are in contact with a person (let's call him X) who has horrible friends. You are the only person who treats X nicely, and you try to explain to him that his friends are dickheads etc. X is extremely happy that he found you in his life and eventually he agrees with you, that his friends are horrible, and that he should stop hanging out with them.
However time passes... X is still hanging out with those friends! When you meet (or when you talk online) X complains to you about how these people treat him etc etc... And you keep on telling him to stop hanging out with them. This thing happens again and again, but X doesn't stop hanging out with them. Why does he not? The reason is simple. No matter how bad he is treated by his friends, he always has you, who is the best friend he could ask for, and who is constantly there to comfort him whenever his other friends treat him like shit.
...Without realizing it, X is now dependent on you. If you LEAVE from his life, you will then see whether you really helped X become strong... If X continues hanging out with the same friends, then you did not succeed. But if X stops hanging out with them, even if the only choice is for him to be alone in his life (because he will also have lost you) then whatever you said to X mattered, and X *really* grew stronger thanks to you. X will make new friends eventually, friends that will actually share the same strength with him and will treat him nicely... But that's another story.
I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make here.
Let's take your situation now.
You had a friend, who was weak. You tried to help her (as you were the stronger one, and naturally wanted to help her) but she was not strong enough... or she was not *willing* to fight for life. NO MATTER the reasons (whether it's because she was tied to the enemy, or her parents were very religious or whatever the reason was), she gave up, and committed suicide. Now, you send her energy once a month... every month. That girl is now dependent on you. If you stop sending energy, her soul will dissipate. That girl is not strong enough. You send her energy in hopes of helping her, but you are making her depend on you.
Now, imagine this girl reincarnating in another life, many many many years later from now.
...How weak will she be?
Because if she is dependent on you and your energy, what will she do in her next life, if you are not still next to her holding her hand throughout her entire life so that she'll "eventually" learn how to walk... She won't learn how to walk, if you don't let her hand. Even if she falls.
Of course, in the case of souls, it's very different; if a soul dissipates then there is no "next life".
But how would our world be, if souls reincarnated thanks to us living, sending them energy in order to keep them alive? Imagine all xians and weak people... people who literally gave up their lives. No matter the reasons.
How would our world be, if the strong ones were busy constantly holding the hand of the weak ones?
The point of Spiritual Satanism (and of life) is to constantly better yourself and the Universe. Progress, evolve and at the same time help the ones around you, or the ones you know you can help. Help them BECOME STRONGER, don't help them to the point of making them depend on you.
It may sound "harsh" but so is life. Take wild life as an example. This is reality.
I also suggest you to read HP Zevios's Sermon about drugs that I believe ties up to the "weak-strong" concept for humanity.
Hope this helps.
-------- Original message --------
From: "tapapakiastinseira@... [JoyofSatan666]"
To:
Subject: Re: The afterlife
In this world (whether we like it or not) there are strong and there are weak people. I am not talking about physical strength (or even spiritual "gifts") but about the will of a person and how strong they are (in their state of mind) to keep fighting or to keep going on for whatever reasons they have.
There are weak people who feed on others and there are weak people who are just one step before death, who don't converse with others etc etc etc, and just wish to die alone.
There are also strong people though... There are strong people who want to HELP the weak ones (and to inspire the strong ones to help others) but of course there are strong people who are dickheads etc, terrorize others and literally make victims of the weak people.
There are a billion reasons why a person is weak or strong. Most of these are spiritual (if they are connected to enemy religion, if there are spiritual blockages to their chakras, past lives experiences etc etc) but there are also physical reasons (abuse from parents or from their surrounding since childhood etc etc etc etc).
People are not born "randomly" with "random" traits and a "random" personality.
People's traits and personality reflects their past lives and experiences.
If for example I was a very emotional person in my past life, I will also be in this life. However, if in my past life (lives) I was hurt by many people, then I may subconsciously shut off my emotions and be emotionless instead (or have a hard time loving others and be considered cynical).
Now, let's get back to the strong people. There are strong people, as I said who really want to help the weak ones. However! There is a very thin line between helping, and making the other depend on you.
Imagine this: you are in contact with a person (let's call him X) who has horrible friends. You are the only person who treats X nicely, and you try to explain to him that his friends are dickheads etc. X is extremely happy that he found you in his life and eventually he agrees with you, that his friends are horrible, and that he should stop hanging out with them.
However time passes... X is still hanging out with those friends! When you meet (or when you talk online) X complains to you about how these people treat him etc etc... And you keep on telling him to stop hanging out with them. This thing happens again and again, but X doesn't stop hanging out with them. Why does he not? The reason is simple. No matter how bad he is treated by his friends, he always has you, who is the best friend he could ask for, and who is constantly there to comfort him whenever his other friends treat him like shit.
...Without realizing it, X is now dependent on you. If you LEAVE from his life, you will then see whether you really helped X become strong... If X continues hanging out with the same friends, then you did not succeed. But if X stops hanging out with them, even if the only choice is for him to be alone in his life (because he will also have lost you) then whatever you said to X mattered, and X *really* grew stronger thanks to you. X will make new friends eventually, friends that will actually share the same strength with him and will treat him nicely... But that's another story.
I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make here.
Let's take your situation now.
You had a friend, who was weak. You tried to help her (as you were the stronger one, and naturally wanted to help her) but she was not strong enough... or she was not *willing* to fight for life. NO MATTER the reasons (whether it's because she was tied to the enemy, or her parents were very religious or whatever the reason was), she gave up, and committed suicide. Now, you send her energy once a month... every month. That girl is now dependent on you. If you stop sending energy, her soul will dissipate. That girl is not strong enough. You send her energy in hopes of helping her, but you are making her depend on you.
Now, imagine this girl reincarnating in another life, many many many years later from now.
...How weak will she be?
Because if she is dependent on you and your energy, what will she do in her next life, if you are not still next to her holding her hand throughout her entire life so that she'll "eventually" learn how to walk... She won't learn how to walk, if you don't let her hand. Even if she falls.
Of course, in the case of souls, it's very different; if a soul dissipates then there is no "next life".
But how would our world be, if souls reincarnated thanks to us living, sending them energy in order to keep them alive? Imagine all xians and weak people... people who literally gave up their lives. No matter the reasons.
How would our world be, if the strong ones were busy constantly holding the hand of the weak ones?
The point of Spiritual Satanism (and of life) is to constantly better yourself and the Universe. Progress, evolve and at the same time help the ones around you, or the ones you know you can help. Help them BECOME STRONGER, don't help them to the point of making them depend on you.
It may sound "harsh" but so is life. Take wild life as an example. This is reality.
I also suggest you to read HP Zevios's Sermon about drugs that I believe ties up to the "weak-strong" concept for humanity.
Hope this helps.
D
Deleted member 86981
Guest
Yeah I understand your point very well Seira, I have been at this thing line a lot of times... My soul even when I didn't empower it was always strong and I always carried multiple people at the same with around with me.
Everywhere I went other would be attracted to me and subconsciously depend on me to keep their souls afloat.
However in the case of this girl, as I do understand that it is completely not healthy for her to reincarnate being so weak, she would stand a better chance at becomming strong in a better world a few decades or hundreads of years from now.
Since the soul simply dissapates if she can't sustain herself that means she will literally cease to exist. With the personality trait I have you should understand this is impossible for me to do right? No matter how many Munka workings I would perform I could never let her just pass away perfemently. I am quite aware this is a big weakness on my part, but I am simply unable to let her disapear for eternity.
I am a weak person, who can't let go of others who in my stupid concieted eyes deserve a better fate than they are getting now. I am quite well aware of this, but I would rather carry her soul with mine for a thousand years than to simply let her disapear forever. If she can reincarnate then she can learn from an early age to awaken her own chakra's.
My soul is quite old and according to my GD I have spend thousands of years in the aether waiting for reincarnation between lives, but my soul never wavered or weakened. I gues I am just very blessed to have such a tanacious existance, or maybe my soul is just one of the lucky ones that was created strong.
However letting her go and disapear causes an ancient pain to well up within me that is far greater than the sadness from a single life time.. I literally feel a sadness and a pain that has accumilated for thousands upom thousands of years sit somewhere deep within my being that comes out when dealing with loss.
This sadness creates such a powerful link with whomever I feel this pain for, that person can even escape certain death... This was twice the case in my life, where literally I fueled life back into the other persons soul to succh an extend they were brought back from near death. I know it isn't good for me and I know I need to get rid of this, but I don't know where to start picking this appart.
I believe it is a connection that I made in my earliest existance, but I'm not sure how long ago that was and that I either consciously or subconsciously empowered this bond that is connected to loss of life within people I care about for thousands of years untill the point where this thing is so huge it takes over my entire soul in an instant when ever it is triggered and my soul enters a panicked state of denail so strong it literally pulls people back from one foot within the grave by directly linking my entire being to the persons soul and dragging their damage and pain and suffering through my soul and replacing their damaged parts with my own energy.... It's extremely damaging and extremely dangerous and I need to work on it, because taking in any kind of disease in your own soul is deadly, let alone taking in life threathening levels of death energy and raplacing it with my own energy to fix the person up in a bout of sadness because I feel this injustice and unimaginable pain. Not a physical pain, but a heartwrenching pain that will literally bring me to my knees in an instant and take over my entire being.
The only reason I was able to recover from this is because of my will power to survive. These 2 things together are a deadly combination of which I have absolutely no idea how to deal with as it is seriously strong.
Even when I remember this sadness for an instand it makes all my chakra's squeeze and pulsate unaturally and makes my whole body shiver and makes tears well up in my eyes immedietly.
I was always a happy kid, but when I had grief I would often be sad and cry about the loss of a person or even an animal for more than 6 months every night.
I control it much better now but the effect is still just as bad.
Everywhere I went other would be attracted to me and subconsciously depend on me to keep their souls afloat.
However in the case of this girl, as I do understand that it is completely not healthy for her to reincarnate being so weak, she would stand a better chance at becomming strong in a better world a few decades or hundreads of years from now.
Since the soul simply dissapates if she can't sustain herself that means she will literally cease to exist. With the personality trait I have you should understand this is impossible for me to do right? No matter how many Munka workings I would perform I could never let her just pass away perfemently. I am quite aware this is a big weakness on my part, but I am simply unable to let her disapear for eternity.
I am a weak person, who can't let go of others who in my stupid concieted eyes deserve a better fate than they are getting now. I am quite well aware of this, but I would rather carry her soul with mine for a thousand years than to simply let her disapear forever. If she can reincarnate then she can learn from an early age to awaken her own chakra's.
My soul is quite old and according to my GD I have spend thousands of years in the aether waiting for reincarnation between lives, but my soul never wavered or weakened. I gues I am just very blessed to have such a tanacious existance, or maybe my soul is just one of the lucky ones that was created strong.
However letting her go and disapear causes an ancient pain to well up within me that is far greater than the sadness from a single life time.. I literally feel a sadness and a pain that has accumilated for thousands upom thousands of years sit somewhere deep within my being that comes out when dealing with loss.
This sadness creates such a powerful link with whomever I feel this pain for, that person can even escape certain death... This was twice the case in my life, where literally I fueled life back into the other persons soul to succh an extend they were brought back from near death. I know it isn't good for me and I know I need to get rid of this, but I don't know where to start picking this appart.
I believe it is a connection that I made in my earliest existance, but I'm not sure how long ago that was and that I either consciously or subconsciously empowered this bond that is connected to loss of life within people I care about for thousands of years untill the point where this thing is so huge it takes over my entire soul in an instant when ever it is triggered and my soul enters a panicked state of denail so strong it literally pulls people back from one foot within the grave by directly linking my entire being to the persons soul and dragging their damage and pain and suffering through my soul and replacing their damaged parts with my own energy.... It's extremely damaging and extremely dangerous and I need to work on it, because taking in any kind of disease in your own soul is deadly, let alone taking in life threathening levels of death energy and raplacing it with my own energy to fix the person up in a bout of sadness because I feel this injustice and unimaginable pain. Not a physical pain, but a heartwrenching pain that will literally bring me to my knees in an instant and take over my entire being.
The only reason I was able to recover from this is because of my will power to survive. These 2 things together are a deadly combination of which I have absolutely no idea how to deal with as it is seriously strong.
Even when I remember this sadness for an instand it makes all my chakra's squeeze and pulsate unaturally and makes my whole body shiver and makes tears well up in my eyes immedietly.
I was always a happy kid, but when I had grief I would often be sad and cry about the loss of a person or even an animal for more than 6 months every night.
I control it much better now but the effect is still just as bad.
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Is it true that you'd be reincarnated faster if you ended up being taken by the enemy and send to 'heaven' ?
you will be used as a battery to keep their thoughtform going
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Is it true that you'd be reincarnated faster if you ended up being taken by the enemy and send to 'heaven' ?
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I'll only answer the one question because I am not completely certain on the rest.As for empowering her soul, yes it is entirely possible. Just doing energy work, will help, and I believe you could vibrate words of power into her soul to empower her as well (I am not completely certain that vibrating would work though). When you do energy work on her, if you choose to do this, make certain to use affirmations EVERY time to direct the energy to its exact goal.
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Vadric, yes the soul dissapates slowly after death. Unless the soul is powerful enough to fuel itself without needing to take energy. Often the soul of a deceased visits friends and family to drain energy in order to fuel itself and prevent itself from dissapating.
Some souls are naturally much more powerful and can stay in the aeter for thousands of years without needing to drain any energy from somewhere else. Most people are too weak to do this and they will dissapate within decades or even less. It also takes much longer before you can reincarnate than what is believed by most. Some people claim they have lived thousands of lifetimes and all, but very few people have lived more than 3 or 4 lives.
Think about it: the soul needs to reach the magnum opus as it's final goal, do you think you can try indefinitly? Most of the time people fail miserably in their first life to make much progress, but that depends of course, however the second life is important because this is kind of like make or break. If you make progress in your second life you won't need to wait very long to reincarnate again because the gods can see that you have a good chance of finishing it in your third life, but if you once again failed to make any progress your soul is too weak to stay long in the aeter and there is no telling if you can actually start making progress in your next life.
Put very bluntly, if a person has lived thousands of life times, they are basically a useless piece of crap that after such a huge amount of time they are still unable to make any progress. You won't get to try indefinitly.
The Magnum Opus can be completed in the first lifetime, but often the person will not find the right path or the right knowledge so quickly since it is hard to find these days.
Reincarnation isn't up to chance either, Satan deals with the transmigration of souls. He will ultimately decide if you get to go back or not and some people just don't have what it takes.
That is why, this life time there is no point in living if I don't complete the magnum opus now. I might never get another chance. You should all strafe for that, to complete it now in this life and make the gods proud.
Satan rewards those who struggle for his sake everyday.
Some souls are naturally much more powerful and can stay in the aeter for thousands of years without needing to drain any energy from somewhere else. Most people are too weak to do this and they will dissapate within decades or even less. It also takes much longer before you can reincarnate than what is believed by most. Some people claim they have lived thousands of lifetimes and all, but very few people have lived more than 3 or 4 lives.
Think about it: the soul needs to reach the magnum opus as it's final goal, do you think you can try indefinitly? Most of the time people fail miserably in their first life to make much progress, but that depends of course, however the second life is important because this is kind of like make or break. If you make progress in your second life you won't need to wait very long to reincarnate again because the gods can see that you have a good chance of finishing it in your third life, but if you once again failed to make any progress your soul is too weak to stay long in the aeter and there is no telling if you can actually start making progress in your next life.
Put very bluntly, if a person has lived thousands of life times, they are basically a useless piece of crap that after such a huge amount of time they are still unable to make any progress. You won't get to try indefinitly.
The Magnum Opus can be completed in the first lifetime, but often the person will not find the right path or the right knowledge so quickly since it is hard to find these days.
Reincarnation isn't up to chance either, Satan deals with the transmigration of souls. He will ultimately decide if you get to go back or not and some people just don't have what it takes.
That is why, this life time there is no point in living if I don't complete the magnum opus now. I might never get another chance. You should all strafe for that, to complete it now in this life and make the gods proud.
Satan rewards those who struggle for his sake everyday.
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There are 2 ways I use to deal with energy drain.
1: When I feel I am being drained I identify what is draining me by tracing the energy to the place it is going.
To do so, go into a light trance and follow the energy with your astral sight, this will lead you to the place or person that is taking your energy.
Then there are 2 things you can do, you can simply close your chakra's and prevent that person or thing from draining you, or if you are more advanced and know how to manipulate energy, you can rip the energy they stole from you out of them and pull it back into you, then close your chakra's. That way you didn't loose any energy. I found you can still manipulate your own energy even if it has been drained by another entity, but that requires some practise.
2: The second thing you can do to deal with energy drain is to keep building more energy constantly to fuel your chakra's and body. For example, you might be trying to heal a loved one and this might take a prolonged period of time in case of a bad injury. When you heal someone their soul will make a connection to yours and drain energy from you to recover themselves. In this case since you are healing them, you might not want to sever this connection. Make sure your own souls energy isn't being taken though.
To make sure your own energy isn't being taken, draw in energy from the sun and the environment, make sure it's white gold and fuel your soul with this. To draw in lot's of energy, vibrate Aum Suryea while drawing in energy from the sun. It usually takes no more than 10 vibrations to stock back up on energy if someone has been draining you for almost a whole day. So just do this periodically 2 or 3 times a day a few times, like 9-27 vibrations (I usually use increments of 9) to keep enough energy in you so you won't be affected by the drain.
It's kind of like passive healing, but it is not good, because the other person is still not healing itself properly, so this shuld not be done longer than a few days after the person fell ill and you need to make sure never to make a connection to their illness. It's more effective to draw out the negative energy that is making hem sick than to put energy in, since their soul probably isn't as powerful as yours and will not be as good and efficient at healing an injury as you are.
1: When I feel I am being drained I identify what is draining me by tracing the energy to the place it is going.
To do so, go into a light trance and follow the energy with your astral sight, this will lead you to the place or person that is taking your energy.
Then there are 2 things you can do, you can simply close your chakra's and prevent that person or thing from draining you, or if you are more advanced and know how to manipulate energy, you can rip the energy they stole from you out of them and pull it back into you, then close your chakra's. That way you didn't loose any energy. I found you can still manipulate your own energy even if it has been drained by another entity, but that requires some practise.
2: The second thing you can do to deal with energy drain is to keep building more energy constantly to fuel your chakra's and body. For example, you might be trying to heal a loved one and this might take a prolonged period of time in case of a bad injury. When you heal someone their soul will make a connection to yours and drain energy from you to recover themselves. In this case since you are healing them, you might not want to sever this connection. Make sure your own souls energy isn't being taken though.
To make sure your own energy isn't being taken, draw in energy from the sun and the environment, make sure it's white gold and fuel your soul with this. To draw in lot's of energy, vibrate Aum Suryea while drawing in energy from the sun. It usually takes no more than 10 vibrations to stock back up on energy if someone has been draining you for almost a whole day. So just do this periodically 2 or 3 times a day a few times, like 9-27 vibrations (I usually use increments of 9) to keep enough energy in you so you won't be affected by the drain.
It's kind of like passive healing, but it is not good, because the other person is still not healing itself properly, so this shuld not be done longer than a few days after the person fell ill and you need to make sure never to make a connection to their illness. It's more effective to draw out the negative energy that is making hem sick than to put energy in, since their soul probably isn't as powerful as yours and will not be as good and efficient at healing an injury as you are.
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Satanas is a very powerful mantrahttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/892 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/182
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The soul dissipates? Like to the point of no longer existing? If so, how do we go so long between lives? Also, Luka you said you know how to deal with energy drain.. To do so, is it just doing vibrations like SATANAS and the 666 meditation? Just want to be sure
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Satanas is a very powerful mantrahttps://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/892 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/182
---In , <vadric562@... wrote :
The soul dissipates? Like to the point of no longer existing? If so, how do we go so long between lives? Also, Luka you said you know how to deal with energy drain.. To do so, is it just doing vibrations like SATANAS and the 666 meditation? Just want to be sure
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