People who have "died"

[Silent Godess]

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

[magister.willard]

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

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darkness is matter that has yet to be created.  In the beginning there was nothing but a void.   In a message dated 6/10/2010 7:34:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, magister.willard@... writes:

  Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

[aarzhul]

I'd tell him to go read on NDE (near death experiences), people see a truckload of things, white lights, tunnels, the xtian lie, seeing their own body from above.

I'm going to go ahead and post that it is possible to will yourself to death. I almost succeeded but my leg kicked by itself.
The white light thing I do believe is the soul leaving the body.
Here's the thing, if it was more like a coma and their soul didnt actually leave then its not surprising it felt like a sleep.

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

[Silent Godess]

OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@... wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

[daitsun88]

Why do you need to tell them something in the first place?If they have an astral projection they'll see what happens when you're dead and lose your physical body. Let them believe anything they want until then.

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

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Perhaps the ones who saw nothing, were not in fact that close to death. I remember the one surgery I had, I woke up kind of upset b/c I didn't remember anything, no dreams etc., it was like being dead and there not being any Afterlife. But you go on the Near Death Experience websites and it's impressive. And none of them saw "Jehovah" although some claimed they saw "Jesus"--but they were devout Christians, everyone else saw like a panel of "elders" that did not judge them, it all sounds quite nice but being a Satanist we will surely not go through what everyone else does who aren't Satanists, in other words, we'll be with Satan in HIS paradise afterworld...and He may reincarnate us, or maybe not. I hope not, I don't want to come back to this miserable planet again but I would for Satan if that's his will....

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

[daitsun88]

This planet won't be so miserable when the Gods come back to earth again. And you can get incarnated in other places than earth too, even the physical place the gods live now. There are a few claiming to be incarnated from other constellations. But the problem is you can't reach godhead if you don't get incarnated, you need a physical body to do that. He does incarnate all people at some point, depending on the situation, to give us a chance. Especially now, since there's spiritual warfare going on and he needs people to help.

--- In , "moonshadow48@..." <moonshadow48@... wrote:

Perhaps the ones who saw nothing, were not in fact that close to death. I remember the one surgery I had, I woke up kind of upset b/c I didn't remember anything, no dreams etc., it was like being dead and there not being any Afterlife. But you go on the Near Death Experience websites and it's impressive. And none of them saw "Jehovah" although some claimed they saw "Jesus"--but they were devout Christians, everyone else saw like a panel of "elders" that did not judge them, it all sounds quite nice but being a Satanist we will surely not go through what everyone else does who aren't Satanists, in other words, we'll be with Satan in HIS paradise afterworld...and He may reincarnate us, or maybe not. I hope not, I don't want to come back to this miserable planet again but I would for Satan if that's his will....

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

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The same thing happened to me when I had a tooth extracted.  I was actually angry that I didn't have an OBE.  LOL  People see what they expect to see.   In a message dated 6/11/2010 10:26:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, moonshadow48@... writes:

  Perhaps the ones who saw nothing, were not in fact that close to death. I remember the one surgery I had, I woke up kind of upset b/c I didn't remember anything, no dreams etc., it was like being dead and there not being any Afterlife. But you go on the Near Death Experience websites and it's impressive. And none of them saw "Jehovah" although some claimed they saw "Jesus"--but they were devout Christians, everyone else saw like a panel of "elders" that did not judge them, it all sounds quite nice but being a Satanist we will surely not go through what everyone else does who aren't Satanists, in other words, we'll be with Satan in HIS paradise afterworld...and He may reincarnate us, or maybe not. I hope not, I don't want to come back to this miserable planet again but I would for Satan if that's his will....

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@... wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?




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[amy deck]

Perception is reality. Whatever they percieve to be their afterlife is what they will see. Even if we dont know were dying the brain will and itll be almost like a picture show in the moments before death of whatever our perception is of the afterlife. Sometimes these moments seem to stretch on. Only an opinion though i sopose.

On Thu Jun 10th, 2010 9:26 PM EDT Silent Godess wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@... wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?






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[Silent Godess]

True, we are not trying to convert anyone but people who are very close could mentally attack with negative things and I just want to strengthen my own defenses

--- In , "daitsun88" <daitsun88@... wrote:

Why do you need to tell them something in the first place?If they have an astral projection they'll see what happens when you're dead and lose your physical body. Let them believe anything they want until then.

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?

 

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Amy, I hope that you are right, that would be so cool--I have always thought that perhaps we have a big hand in what our afterlife is going to be like. I am an artist and writer so I have no shortage of imagination, and I've already pictured in my mind where me and my demon are going to live in the afterlife...I think Satan likes us to use our imaginations so He doesn't have to do all the work!

--- In , amy deck <blackarmanidevil3@... wrote:

Perception is reality. Whatever they percieve to be their afterlife is what they will see. Even if we dont know were dying the brain will and itll be almost like a picture show in the moments before death of whatever our perception is of the afterlife. Sometimes these moments seem to stretch on. Only an opinion though i sopose.

On Thu Jun 10th, 2010 9:26 PM EDT Silent Godess wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?






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[sacrum88]

<td val[/IMG]...and animals?

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Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 10:26 AM

  Amy, I hope that you are right, that would be so cool--I have always thought that perhaps we have a big hand in what our afterlife is going to be like. I am an artist and writer so I have no shortage of imagination, and I've already pictured in my mind where me and my demon are going to live in the afterlife...I think Satan likes us to use our imaginations so He doesn't have to do all the work!

--- In http://us.mc593.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=, amy deck <blackarmanidevil3@... wrote:

Perception is reality. Whatever they percieve to be their afterlife is what they will see. Even if we dont know were dying the brain will and itll be almost like a picture show in the moments before death of whatever our perception is of the afterlife. Sometimes these moments seem to stretch on. Only an opinion though i sopose.

On Thu Jun 10th, 2010 9:26 PM EDT Silent Godess wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In http://us.mc593.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=, "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In http://us.mc593.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=, "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?






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[amy deck]

For animals id like to think its the same way. Although animals rely more on instinct and basic reactions. For them itd probably be more like big fields or a forest with other animals. There probably wouldnt be people with animals though. I dont believe most animals would picture us there. But of course people would have animals in their own afterlife if that was imagined. Theres limitless possibilities. Of course its all up to us.

On Sat Jun 12th, 2010 12:11 PM EDT sacrum88 wrote:

...and animals?

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Amy, I hope that you are right, that would be so cool--I have always thought that perhaps we have a big hand in what our afterlife is going to be like. I am an artist and writer so I have no shortage of imagination, and I've already pictured in my mind where me and my demon are going to live in the afterlife...I think Satan likes us to use our imaginations so He doesn't have to do all the work!

--- In , amy deck <blackarmanidevil3@... wrote:

Perception is reality. Whatever they percieve to be their afterlife is what they will see. Even if we dont know were dying the brain will and itll be almost like a picture show in the moments before death of whatever our perception is of the afterlife. Sometimes these moments seem to stretch on. Only an opinion though i sopose.

On Thu Jun 10th, 2010 9:26 PM EDT Silent Godess wrote:


OK...cause others HAVE seen things. I'm just saying that you get a handful of people who say they didn't see Jack.

--- In , "magister.willard" <magister.willard@ wrote:

Maybe that void WAS their afterlife??

HS/88!!
Magister Willard

--- In , "Silent Godess" <silentgodess@ wrote:

How do you explain an afterlife to people who died for some moments technically in a medical crisis...they say they remember nothing and saw nothing like sleep with no dreams...what can I tell them?






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