erikavonheim
New member
Sadly, I can't see which other satanic females are online. Any reason for that?
pretty girl
pretty girl
Other lady members
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blackkat_411
Active member
..Hail Satan!! WHY?? what is the reason you need to see other satanic females online? Just a question, perhaps you care to answer??
jonathon_billing
Member
I wouldn't think it'd be very attractive to most women. Better marketing needed imo.
Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.
Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.
I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.
Satanism is like the military(spiritual warfare) mixed with engineering(spiritual empowerment). Very masculine jobs.
Hm. Perhaps one can work more femininity into the image?
Things related to children and what not.
I know, I know, sexism etc, but I'm shooting for the average citizen in the street here. Men want to do things that make them feel masculine, women feminine.
Erika VonHeim
New member
Oh, because I love to meet sister souls! Strike up a chat and see of we are compatible --- or could learn to be?Hail Satan, dear!pretty girl
From: blackkat_411 <egret23@...
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:52 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
..Hail Satan!! WHY?? what is the reason you need to see other satanic females online? Just a question, perhaps you care to answer??
From: blackkat_411 <egret23@...
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:52 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
..Hail Satan!! WHY?? what is the reason you need to see other satanic females online? Just a question, perhaps you care to answer??
Serpentfire666
Member
Huh? Satanic Spirituality is masculine and needs better female marketing? Are you actually serious? I am no man hating feminist but that is just insulting or do you forget some of The highest Ranking of The Gods are FEMALE!
Hail Satan
Hail Satan
Serpentfire666
Member
Just be patient I understand it is great to have friends to talk to who you can trust and that is the important thing here trust there are people on these boards a basket short of a picnic and some who are up to no good be carefull who you talk to and trust. It takes time to find members who you can trust and get to know, start slowly and it is not advisable at all to meet with members you have not spent good time getting to know.
Hail Satan
Hail Satan
darrklady13
Active member
Not understanding what you mean, exactly pretty girl.
There are many females here. Some of us are gay, most of us are not.....are we supposed to announce ourselves???
Is this a sexism issue for you? If so, your completely wrong in this. I've been on these boards 7 yrs and never felt that this group treated females unfairly....since the FOUNDER OF THE CHURCH IS FEMALE AS WELL.
Hailz
There are many females here. Some of us are gay, most of us are not.....are we supposed to announce ourselves???
Is this a sexism issue for you? If so, your completely wrong in this. I've been on these boards 7 yrs and never felt that this group treated females unfairly....since the FOUNDER OF THE CHURCH IS FEMALE AS WELL.
Hailz
jonathon_billing
Member
Everything is marketing Raven, people just don't know what marketing is truly about. You're probably thinking of "advertising"(sneaky tricks), the two are similar but when you studying them, quite different.
Marketing is about providing the most value to your target market, and in return receiving the most value back.
Obviously if people applied this, it would be a good thing.
As I said, and in my judgement, I don't think most women are going to be all super-chummy about the warfare aspects of Satanism. I'm not saying get rid of it (LOL), but balance it out - ida and pingala.
Marketing is about providing the most value to your target market, and in return receiving the most value back.
Obviously if people applied this, it would be a good thing.
As I said, and in my judgement, I don't think most women are going to be all super-chummy about the warfare aspects of Satanism. I'm not saying get rid of it (LOL), but balance it out - ida and pingala.
jonathon_billing
Member
Yes, this is my judgment of the matter.
The image of Zevism presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.
Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.
Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.
The image of Zevism presently, in my opinion, is very masculine. Practices could be put into place which would provide an environment that is more congruent with the values of feminine-women.
Whether you feel insulted by something I've said is entirely up to the premises that you accept. You don't have to feel insulted.
Completely aware of the status' of Goddesses.
It is up to the individual how this concept, (of the 'spiritual' warrior) becomes part of them.
People will find the truth when they themselves are drawn to it. And whether they accept this specific concept right away is not vital.
Proselytism in the form of falsehood to win people over is not the answer.
Satan, in This age needs warriors. You can't gloss this over.
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jonathon_billing
Member
Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.
And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.
It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.
Falsehood?
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I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.
And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.
It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.
Falsehood?
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I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.
High Priestess Lydia Coventina
High Priestess
I don't see it as being masculine. After all, we're empowering the feminine side of our brains, lol. And we advise doing yoga, ask most men out there about yoga and they scoff at it.
I have always seen Zevism, and the image it currently has, as being completely balanced.
I have always seen Zevism, and the image it currently has, as being completely balanced.
High Priestess Lydia Coventina
High Priestess
I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been.
Myla Limlal
Guest
if u read jos clergies ,some are females
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as I'm
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Erika VonHeim
New member
Maybe this group is not particularly interested in "the vast majority" - of women or otherwise - and rather, so far, a select minority. In all events, any lady member is more than welcome to I-Message me, any time.My Yahoo Messenger moniker is erikavonheim .
Saluting you,pretty girl von Heim
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To:
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:43 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.
And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.
It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.
Falsehood?
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I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.
Saluting you,pretty girl von Heim
From: jonathon_billing <jonathon.billing@...
To:
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:43 PM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
Yes, I agree, warriors = good good.
And I think the present Warrior of Satan would perform better if there were more feminine-women around. It's morale boosting.
It's like with the ida and pingla. The pingala(warrior) performs better when it has the supportive and comforting energies of the ida with it, otherwise one starts burning out.
Falsehood?
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I don't think the vast majority of women are warriors. If you gave them the choice of being one, or supporting one. They'd go with the latter imo.
Erika VonHeim
New member
Hello again: as mentioned, my Yahoo Messenger ID is erikavonheimSaluting,pretty girl
From: "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
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Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:02 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been.
From: "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@...
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:02 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Other lady members
I have to disagree with your last paragraph, based entirely on my family. All women in my family (going back at least 4 generations that I know of) are very feminine, yet we are warriors. Always have been.
jonathon_billing
Member
You've gotta be taking the piss. "Based entirely on my family"? You'll need greater numbers than that.
Certain traits run in families, you can even see it in the astrology.
Certain traits run in families, you can even see it in the astrology.
jonathon_billing
Member
Hmmm. That's true. Feminine side of brain.
Notwithstanding, the reality of it, women love feminine stuff, they love to feel feminine. If Satanism can be marketed in such a way, more women would join imo.
I think if yoga was marketed properly:
Instead of this: "Yoga can get you in touch with yourself."
This: "Yoga can make you a powerful he-man."
More men would do it. Men want to feel masculine. Not all men of course, but they are the minority.
Notwithstanding, the reality of it, women love feminine stuff, they love to feel feminine. If Satanism can be marketed in such a way, more women would join imo.
I think if yoga was marketed properly:
Instead of this: "Yoga can get you in touch with yourself."
This: "Yoga can make you a powerful he-man."
More men would do it. Men want to feel masculine. Not all men of course, but they are the minority.
High Priestess Lydia Coventina
High Priestess
I just don't understand how you think Zevism is "marketed" as being masculine. But I'm not the type who looks at how things are "marketed", I take each thing as it is. When I found JoS I didn't think "does this seem feminine or masculine?" I didn't think about how it seemed to be presented, I just saw the truth. And that's how I think things should be. Take it as it is, no guise or pretenses or viewing how things seem to fit into society. It is what it is, if it suits you personally then fine if not then leave it.
Don't do something because it's masculine/feminine and you're a male/female, do something because you personally want to.
Don't do something because it's masculine/feminine and you're a male/female, do something because you personally want to.
jonathon_billing
Member
Zevism isn't really being marketed at all. Not intentionally. What I want to see is a proper implementation of marketing principles.
I've quite a strong interest in psychology, and mercury in aquarius - my mind is always analyzing, etc etc. That combined with perfectionism....
Well of course you wouldn't. This is about getting the most, to the most people. About providing the best experience. Like when you buy a new phone, it's a more enjoyable experience to go into a store that's congruent with your own value.
This value creation then flows on and out.
Look, realistically here's our two differing views in action form:
1. Leave Zevism/JOS as it is.
2. Use proven marketing(not advertising!) principles to improve the environment of Zevism/JOS.
Can you really say that doing number 2 is all that bad?
I've quite a strong interest in psychology, and mercury in aquarius - my mind is always analyzing, etc etc. That combined with perfectionism....
Well of course you wouldn't. This is about getting the most, to the most people. About providing the best experience. Like when you buy a new phone, it's a more enjoyable experience to go into a store that's congruent with your own value.
This value creation then flows on and out.
Look, realistically here's our two differing views in action form:
1. Leave Zevism/JOS as it is.
2. Use proven marketing(not advertising!) principles to improve the environment of Zevism/JOS.
Can you really say that doing number 2 is all that bad?
jonathon_billing
Member
I think it's important that all Gentile women come to know of Satan, and how to become a Goddess.
