--- In , Jason Watts <jasonwatts1985@... wrote:
so its the Power Meditations that bring ecperiences... but still as a
beginner wouldnt you need atleast a faith in yourself and understanding of
the material to hold you over as you begin to experience the things we
discuss on the group...
again i reiterate the word "faith" is a horrible word imo but the only one
i know to even give a slight depiction of the meaning im trying to convey
Hail Satan!!!
Hail The Gods of Duat!!!
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:51 PM, the_fire_starter666 <
the_fire_starter666@... wrote:
It's not true though as I explained in my reply in this thread. Adam seems
to believe that you have to dedicate yourself first in order to get some
experiences. The part about taking on faith has to do with this assumption
of his, and I don't blame him because this misconception is popular. Many
people believe that you must rush the dedication as the first thing to do
(which like I said doesn't bring you extra experiences you didn't have,
only if you are psychically open), and that it's the most important to do
in order to experience things. Which is not the case (power meditation is
the most important and the basis for all experiences).
--- In , Jason Watts <jasonwatts1985@
wrote:
i feel as though i understand what he means by "take everything on faith"
especially when coming from a non magickal background... i do not like
the
term however but the Knowing comes later for some of us we must do our
dedication and begin a power meditation program "on faith" for lack of a
better term... a few days in that knowing replaces the so called faith
wgere as in xian based programs the faith is always faith there will
never
be any knowing...
in conclusion i was raised xian until i turned my back on god and went
searching into many religions and paths that used some form of Magick or
another... so when i found JoS it rang true on a level in my Soul that i
have never experienced before...
I do not in any way shape or form like the word "Faith" it reeks of xian
corruption but alas the english language sucks so i am able to see how it
may apply for a short time...
Ultimately we as Zevism are the Elite Chosen by Father to further his aims on
Earth as we wait for the return of him and the other Gods we KNOW our
path
is the truth we KNOW our ways are right... but in the beginning we must
pull away from the corruption in a fashion that makes the transition
easier.... the word faith has many uses once we get rid of the xian
version
of "Blind Faith" we question everything we learn everything and Father is
ACTUALLY here (astrally) to help us as we progree...
Hail Satan!!!
Hail The Gods of Duat!!!
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:43 PM, darrklady13 <darkladyschild@wrote:
Keep learning Adam, be patient.
Make sure you have no reservations.
Now when you say, "take everything on faith"......no you cannot. You
have
to KNOW that its true. This isn't fairy tale.
www.https://templeofzeus.org/LiturgicalTerms.php
www.evilbible.com
--- In , "AdamD" <oblivions_nightmare@
wrote:
I want to drop a line to introduce myself to everybody. I've been
reading through the material on the Joy of Satan website and am
seriously
considering taking the leap. I guess the only thing really holding me
back
is the bad experiences I've had with religion in the past
(ex-Christian). I
have to agree that the Abrahamic faiths have got to be one of the
greatest
evils unleashed on mankind and it'd be for the best if they never
existed.
I guess the problem lies in the leap of faith it seems to take to
dedicate
yourself to Satan. I certainly mean no offense, but it seems to me
that one
must just take everything you guys claim on faith before you can see if
it's really true or not. It reminds me a lot of Christian thinking
(again,
no offense intended). I'm interested in the truth and nothing more or
less.
If there's anything anyone can do to help through this sorting
process, I'd
greatly appreciate your feedback and impressions. Thank you in advance
for
your time!
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Anyways, thank you all for your understanding and I certainly will continue studying and reflecting (maybe even give the power meditations a try). I've been searching for years and certainly hope that search is over.
