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Lunar Dance 666 said:
When you do the detaching try to focus as much on yourself as you can. Thatd help make it a little easier to get rid of what doesnt belong there.

Also send you an email :)

So, is it like when you do yoga and you focus on your body and the peace feeling? Or do you mean focus on yourself as in taking care of oneself?

Yes I got your email, I'll respond to you there soon, Lunar :)
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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tabby said:
NakedPluto said:
You have extensive empathy ability. While you might experience these things, others have no idea of what you talk about. You must know so you do not get too sensitive to what is damaging to you, such as subjects of death and suffering. Do try to be selective of your attention with this.

*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

If this sensitivity is a big problem, then you should address it more directly. Earth is regulatory, but sometimes we need to treat the issue itself, rather than relying on the broader regulatory powers of Earth. Alternatively, you can use Earth energy or runes to specifically regulate this issue.

Otherwise, use Munka or Uruz in a freeing style working to remove any negative obstacles or karma relevant to your sensitivity, which includes oversensitivity, uncontrolled sensations, allowing your feelings to override the functions of another planetary energy, etc.

The high degree of empathy is good, but not with any of this baggage attached to it. The same applies to people who may have a lot of fire energy, but be overly aggressive, for example.

Most likely, you will want to do both types of solutions, freeing and regulating. Similar to Uruz, this may also help you: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=405837#p405837

That sounds promising. I'm grateful to you Blitz, thank you.

It didn't even cross my mind to use munka and such for this. But I guess I didn't make the connection that the uncontrolled empathy had anything to do with karma and/or obstacles making it go out of whack. I just thought it was because I lacked earth in my chart.

Learning a lot today, I had no idea transits could cause a similar effect.

So to clarify... Since karma can affect this, does that mean if one's water planets are afflicted or being strongly emphasized in a chart, that it can contribute to this kind of situation with the empathy going a bit haywire?
 
tabby said:
*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

A small advice I'd have here is, to exercise a larger perspective everytime, with your focus.

For example, you hear-see, happen to stumble upon the story of someone being shot. You feel the pain, the suffering, the limitation. If this gets out of hand, simply focus on the other part, such as understanding that the shooter is also a gelatin real human as well, no different than the victim, depreciate the authority of the situation. Then understand that the gun is the objective reality of power and sentence, and understand that explosive power, but do it by a detached form from the actual situation.

Understand how can you use this to protect yourself, understand how people are oftentimes stupid, or how some feelings and planetary influences get together for something like this.

Then focus on your actual situation, how your integrity of body is fully complete and safe, you are luminous and healthy.

So the basis would be:

1. Practice reverse depth of the situation, creating a larger picture.

2. Depreciate the authorities involved that are perceived as so by you, understand the equity in this.

3. Extract the knowledge and insight from this.

4. Detach, exit, willingly nullify the situation in yourself.


For suffering as an example, you can exercise gratitude by discrimination. You can protect further yourself and others. By the nature of the spiritual, as you will do protection, as a small example, these things that are negative are now fully protected against, since now you know in a more conscious and pronounced way.

Another advice I will have is to not let yourself stumble upon a passive empathy. Since your are an empath, you need to have all of these experiences as active pursuit. So do practice your empathy to what means: Love, Peace, Happiness, Sentiments, Superb Situations, Gardens, Flowers, Animals, Beautiful People, Beautiful dimensions.

Do willingly induce yourself to beautiful experiences. The idea must be as so: The number of positive empathic experiences must exceed the negative ones or be in a harmonious balance. So you must take control by willingly focusing on what you like and what you want.

Do this on and for the Gods as well.
 
tabby said:
If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

Do not suppress this by actually shoving or ignoring your senses. But by change of perspective and focus, as told.

If you ignore or suppress this in any way directly, this will incubate in other forms within your mental frame and emotions. Can turn to fears and then phobias, to even chronic problems.

This is not something bad, this is something of a great ability. You can reach some beautiful states of being. Not to mention your perception is fully expanding with this.

This needs training in form of doing it, by exercise and trial, not ..not doing it.

Do not fear this, do not also amplify without reason.

Do focus on the positive always. You can bring realities of beauty in your life by this way. Since you grasp it, you enact it, simply.

Caution to have stability and grounding and also not stay in dream lands or incubate delusional tendencies. Neptune is not to be played with.
 
tabby said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
When you do the detaching try to focus as much on yourself as you can. Thatd help make it a little easier to get rid of what doesnt belong there.

Also send you an email :)

So, is it like when you do yoga and you focus on your body and the peace feeling? Or do you mean focus on yourself as in taking care of oneself?

Yes I got your email, I'll respond to you there soon, Lunar :)

The yoga thing.

I noticed that when I tried to rid myself of something when focussing on it I was amplifying it and making it harder for me whereas when I focussed more on me and strengthening me and then gently moving more away what I wanted to get rid of, it was much easier to get rid of said thing.
Its just simply more like "where do you place your focus".
 
NakedPluto said:
tabby said:
*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

A small advice I'd have here is, to exercise a larger perspective everytime, with your focus.

For example, you hear-see, happen to stumble upon the story of someone being shot. You feel the pain, the suffering, the limitation. If this gets out of hand, simply focus on the other part, such as understanding that the shooter is also a gelatin real human as well, no different than the victim, depreciate the authority of the situation. Then understand that the gun is the objective reality of power and sentence, and understand that explosive power, but do it by a detached form from the actual situation.

Understand how can you use this to protect yourself, understand how people are oftentimes stupid, or how some feelings and planetary influences get together for something like this.

Then focus on your actual situation, how your integrity of body is fully complete and safe, you are luminous and healthy.

So the basis would be:

1. Practice reverse depth of the situation, creating a larger picture.

2. Depreciate the authorities involved that are perceived as so by you, understand the equity in this.

3. Extract the knowledge and insight from this.

4. Detach, exit, willingly nullify the situation in yourself.


For suffering as an example, you can exercise gratitude by discrimination. You can protect further yourself and others. By the nature of the spiritual, as you will do protection, as a small example, these things that are negative are now fully protected against, since now you know in a more conscious and pronounced way.

Another advice I will have is to not let yourself stumble upon a passive empathy. Since your are an empath, you need to have all of these experiences as active pursuit. So do practice your empathy to what means: Love, Peace, Happiness, Sentiments, Superb Situations, Gardens, Flowers, Animals, Beautiful People, Beautiful dimensions.

Do willingly induce yourself to beautiful experiences. The idea must be as so: The number of positive empathic experiences must exceed the negative ones or be in a harmonious balance. So you must take control by willingly focusing on what you like and what you want.

Do this on and for the Gods as well.

IT WORKED!

I've only practiced with what you said twice now, but both times it didn't hurt me.
The first time, when the empathy tried to cause the pain in my body and overwhelm me, I did what you said and instead of feeling the pain, my whole body tensed up really hard and then relaxed afterwards.

Then the second time, I tried it again, the tensing thing didn't happen that time but I felt calm, even though I was recognising the pain, it wasn't hurting me at all. I still felt that it was there, but like it was outside myself rather than my body being the one getting hurt.

Thank you thank you!!

I'll still do what Blitz recommend. And this too, I can make it a daily practice (the empathy happens all the time). I'm so excited right now!
 
tabby said:
IT WORKED!

I've only practiced with what you said twice now, but both times it didn't hurt me.
The first time, when the empathy tried to cause the pain in my body and overwhelm me, I did what you said and instead of feeling the pain, my whole body tensed up really hard and then relaxed afterwards.

Then the second time, I tried it again, the tensing thing didn't happen that time but I felt calm, even though I was recognising the pain, it wasn't hurting me at all. I still felt that it was there, but like it was outside myself rather than my body being the one getting hurt.

Thank you thank you!!

I'll still do what Blitz recommend. And this too, I can make it a daily practice (the empathy happens all the time). I'm so excited right now!

I'm extremely glad to hear that! Perfect then, in time this will be easier and easier.
 
tabby said:
I don't usually have organ meat, it's a rare treat, but the experience makes me wonder. Compared to muscle meat, the organs seem to have a much more potent energy effect. I'm not really sure how to analyse it.

Fish and sea food in general is thought to be best for people who can pick up easily on residual emotions and energy in food. Because of their biology they don't feel pain the same way most other animals do, nor do they have the same level of "consciousness" that can leave behind a strong energy signature.

That's only what i've heard though, never had a vision eating meat, but i do stray away from certain meats, as soon as i get close to some of them in the supermarket, i just nope outta there, the energy is repulsive, you just know the animal didnt live well.
 
Powerofjustice said:
tabby said:
I don't usually have organ meat, it's a rare treat, but the experience makes me wonder. Compared to muscle meat, the organs seem to have a much more potent energy effect. I'm not really sure how to analyse it.

Fish and sea food in general is thought to be best for people who can pick up easily on residual emotions and energy in food. Because of their biology they don't feel pain the same way most other animals do, nor do they have the same level of "consciousness" that can leave behind a strong energy signature.

That's only what i've heard though, never had a vision eating meat, but i do stray away from certain meats, as soon as i get close to some of them in the supermarket, i just nope outta there, the energy is repulsive, you just know the animal didnt live well.

Oh wow, really? I didn't know this, thanks for telling me! I'll test that out when I can get my hands on some seafood, it's been a long while.

Although... I can't for the life of me stomach lobster or crab. The last time I had it, which was years ago now, I felt awful, the energy was horrible.
 
jrvan said:
Powerofjustice said:

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.
I don't know about that, but I suspect the fact that they're kept in tanks where they're bound, starved and have no stimulation or natural light whatsoever, while they wither away as they wait to die, would not leave a good energetic impression on them.

I don't get a good impression from grocery store lobster. Or any, really, though I can't say I've had wild lobster. It always made me sad to see the conditions that they're kept in, and the methods for cooking them are disturbing, but maybe it's less traumatic than trying to slaughter them like other animals since they're so tough.

Have you seen the video series on YouTube about Leon the lobster? Basically, somebody bought a lobster from the store out of curiosity that they'd be able to nurse them back to health and keep them as a pet.
 
NakedPluto said:
tabby said:
If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

Do not suppress this by actually shoving or ignoring your senses. But by change of perspective and focus, as told.

If you ignore or suppress this in any way directly, this will incubate in other forms within your mental frame and emotions. Can turn to fears and then phobias, to even chronic problems.

This is not something bad, this is something of a great ability. You can reach some beautiful states of being. Not to mention your perception is fully expanding with this.

This needs training in form of doing it, by exercise and trial, not ..not doing it.

Do not fear this, do not also amplify without reason.

Do focus on the positive always. You can bring realities of beauty in your life by this way. Since you grasp it, you enact it, simply.

Caution to have stability and grounding and also not stay in dream lands or incubate delusional tendencies. Neptune is not to be played with.
What do you think about Dark Empaths. I don't like the term the psychologists use as it implies negative traits by default.

I can feel others emotions very strongly and read people fairly well. But it doesn't affect my mental and emotional constitution. I don't have to detach as you told the other person here.

I can manipulate them at will with respect to whatever emotions they're experiencing. I learned that the key to manipulation is to instill emotional states in a person so they associate those emotions with the words the person infront is speaking and connect them as their own. Learning to know what emotions they're experiencing is often key to manipulation.

Also Manipulation implies something negative in the common usage. I am using it not necessarily as a negative term but as a way of consciously directing them through my will. Similar to manipulating energy.
 
jrvan said:
Powerofjustice said:

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.

I've heard of people doing that, how cruel! It takes just a moment to kill them humanely and painlessly, there's no reason to just toss them in a boiling pot to cook alive.
 
General Yeager said:
What do you think about Dark Empaths. I don't like the term the psychologists use as it implies negative traits by default.

I can feel others emotions very strongly and read people fairly well. But it doesn't affect my mental and emotional constitution. I don't have to detach as you told the other person here.

I can manipulate them at will with respect to whatever emotions they're experiencing. I learned that the key to manipulation is to instill emotional states in a person so they associate those emotions with the words the person infront is speaking and connect them as their own. Learning to know what emotions they're experiencing is often key to manipulation.

Also Manipulation implies something negative in the common usage. I am using it not necessarily as a negative term but as a way of consciously directing them through my will. Similar to manipulating energy.

I think this is a form of communication as well, and can be called an emotional intelligence. This tends to be on the masculine side of empathy, one that projects and instructs and the other one would be one that is feminine and receives.
 
jrvan said:
Powerofjustice said:

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.

That is totally disgusting, at least crayfish that have a physiognomy very similar to lobsters can be killed painlessly by removing the vein that carries the oxygen and they have in the tail, leaving them to die of hypoxia before cooking and thus suffer much less than if you throw them alive in boiling water.
 
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