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rpaspausk

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Hei. I'm kinda new here and i need some help. I want to become a satanist, I used to be christian, but i always felt like I'm drowning with it , god doesnt give a fuck about us and shiat like that. I'v seen many religions and i wanted to join them, but i need somekind proof.
I'v had read alot about demons , how to summon them. I tried it myself, but it didin't worked.
 If you succeeded, could you share your expierience, what happened , how it happened?

 
The summoning on JoS works, but you have to be dedicated. It also helps if you have your chakras and astral senses opened so you can sense his/her presence.

If you haven't already, read and study templeofzeus.org
 
Hello, I wrote a post about the Goddess Marchosias, who is also my Guardian Demoness. You can find it here:
Hail Satan!Hail Marchosias!




  Hei. I'm kinda new here and i need some help. I want to become a satanist, I used to be christian, but i always felt like I'm drowning with it , god doesnt give a fuck about us and shiat like that. I'v seen many religions and i wanted to join them, but i need somekind proof.
I'v had read alot about demons , how to summon them. I tried it myself, but it didin't worked.
 If you succeeded, could you share your expierience, what happened , how it happened?



 
You shouldn't really summon a God as the first thing to do. Nobody recommends anything like that. That should only be done only if you 1)are a dedicated Satanist, 2)are astrally open and 3)have a very serious reason (meaning you're not doing it just for fun or to see if it's real). At first and if you aren't advanced it's best to stick with power meditation
It also helps if you read my response to an atheist I wrote some months ago. Everything is important there but the point #4 I make particularly applies to what you asked:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ges/134498  

 
There's another reason why you shouldn't summon a God as your first thing. In Spiritual Satanism, Satan is the most important being. Not any other Gods/Daemons. So a person who is new if he wants to tell something to another being, then he could do a ritual to Satan. You need to have a strong relationship with Satan before summoning other Gods, besides being a dedicated Satanist. Besides power meditations, you can also do rituals to Satan without expecting anything to happen.
 
Well if you WERE a satanist and did the summoning properly it would have worked. But for you to actually communicate with them you must have empowered Clairaudience points to a certain degree, and be on a meditation program with aura cleaning and aura of protection as well. I suggest you try to make a program with atleast those three things in it. After that your guardian demon will most likely contact you in some way. Keep in mind you also need to do the dedication ritual before you can at all. If you are unsure or need more info after reading all the information contained in the J.O.S site, Ask you will receive help
 
Can any one explain who Ashtar is? One of the places I have found has a lot of the items I want for my altar has an altar for Ashtar however I checked on the website and no name was listed on the daemon listing please help!!!
 
But has anyone succeeded in demon summoning? I was thinking about doing that 40 day course , dedicating myself to satan, rituals. But I'm afraid, that after like 3 months I'll realise this was just fraud and all that work was for nothing,
 
but has anyone succeeded in demon(god) summoning? I was thinking about doing 40 days course, dedication to satan , rituals. But I'm afraid like after 3 months this all work was put for nothing and this is thing is all fraud. I need smth i could hold on to.
 
Satanism is not xianinty frist one must read the joy of Satan wed site the information is there. if your not realy committed then that is a waring and if you are do the dedication ritual
 
So, I've been meditating consistently but I've only done standard ritual a few times because I thought the gods are busy and nothing life threatening has happened to me lately. I still haven't really heard Satan. Do I need to do standard ritual more often or will my relationship with Satan improve with meditation?
Hail Satan
Hail Eligos
 
@rpaspausk: This isn't a time race nor do we make any promises. If you put a time line you obviously will be disappointed. That's a major mistake people make. It make take anytime from 1 day to lots of years. You may even be so spiritually closed that it may never even happen in this lifetime and it may happen in your next one. Who knows. But you really view it as a time race thing or thing to have something happen. If you really think like that you're gonna get depressed as well. Like I said you need to do things as an experiment and a fun activity not as to try to achieve something.  Without any expectations or worrying about the outcome. Just the way you watch TV or something like that.
It's not just the time line but the way you view the entire thing that creates problems. It's not a matter of a fraud anyway because you're not paying anything. You're not losing anything. Fraud means somebody else gains something and you lose. There's no money involved, the info on the site is free. You view all religions as something to get instant results which is problematic. It's not a matter of trying to get results, but focusing in the present and enjoying the things you do. I'll ask you: do you enjoy the meditations in the site? Do you like doing them? Do you like doing rituals to Satan just by itself, as an activity? If not and you are merely doing them to "get" something out of them, don't bother doing them at all. All spiritual things are about focusing in the present moment without attached to whether they work or not. If you have strong attachment to their outcome, they obviously are useless to you and fail.
Dedicating yourself to Satan should be done only if you are sure. Not to see if anything happens. The dedication is the final step and you show you want to be a Spiritual Satanist for ever.
 
P.S. I know you're gonna ask me a question after my post so I'll reply to you now:
"But how will I know if it's real, I can't blindly believe in anything!"
Ok first relax. You don't have to believe anything. :) All the things we mention are for informational purposes. You don't have to believe in them or accept them. Just accept that they "may" be real. Spiritual Satanism isn't based on strong beliefs on things you don't know. It isn't that hard to just stay here just accepting the possibility and experimenting with things and doing them because you like them and reading the knowledge because you like the concepts. That's what you need to do, but it you like it of course. If you only have that monolithic thinking in which you're trying to get something out of it then you'll be damaging yourself.
I mean what's the reason you want to join Zevism? If that's some desperation you have like you lack money or your girlfriend/boyfriend left you or you are lonely and have something to talk I'll get you will most likely be disappointed if you are trying to do that. If you just want to gain knowledge and evolve you'll be fine :) I'll say again, if you view it as something to "get" something out of it for other reasons like money, friendships e.t.c. and not for the sake of it you'll have trouble.
I'm saying all those things because I do know those people who ask for proof e.t.c. are the only those who are trying to get something out of it usually for materialistic purposes. For those who are interested in knowledge and practice just for itself this whole question doesn't matter to them.
 
Ashtar is Astaroth that is just a different variation of her name




  Can any one explain who Ashtar is? One of the places I have found has a lot of the items I want for my altar has an altar for Ashtar however I checked on the website and no name was listed on the daemon listing please help!!!


 
Alright I see where you are going it was Ashtart I was thinking of as a name variation I must of been thinking of Ashtar which is the holiday that Easter stole from. Yeah since most spiritual things have a bunch of new age shit in it I wouldn't doubt that is what they are referring too.




  Ashtar isn't Astaroth actually. It's a male enemy Nordic that teaches new age nonsense about love and communicates with new agers. This:
http://www.universe-people.com/english/ ... obr761.jpg  



 
Hi Fibrilink,you can do the standard ritual whenever you like. Here is a post from the Joy of Satan forums that may help you:It's important to do power meditation everyday, especially working on our clairaudient and clairvoyant chakras on our face and head. Be patient with yourself; it takes time to open and become stronger. Be consistent at it everyday. Satan could also be sending you signs, or have coincidences happening. This is from Him and/or your Guardian(s). Be sure to write them down in your black book or journal. I find it helps to have things to talk about or thank Him for when it's written down, rather then jogging your memory to talk about things. It's easier to remember when you write it down.
Hail Satan.




  So, I've been meditating consistently but I've only done standard ritual a few times because I thought the gods are busy and nothing life threatening has happened to me lately. I still haven't really heard Satan. Do I need to do standard ritual more often or will my relationship with Satan improve with meditation?
Hail Satan
Hail Eligos

 
Ashtar [/IMG]www.templeofzeus.org in the Demon's section and you will find a page on Her.
Beware the altar items you buy around as most of them might contain Hebrew letters or other alien signs (enemy blasphemy to out Gods) and so on, check them before buying something you will throw away some montyhs later when you will be more advanced.

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  Can any one explain who Ashtar is? One of the places I have found has a lot of the items I want for my altar has an altar for Ashtar however I checked on the website and no name was listed on the daemon listing please help!!!

 
so is it safe to say that I shouldn't go there to buy candles and the like or should I go ahead and buy things but make sure to bathe it in satanic blue flames. Thank you for your help.






HAIL FATHER SATAN
 
@Peter Thomas: Generally don't buy any items from suspicious sites. Sites promoting angel nonsense and things like that. They charge them with negative enemy energy. It's better to buy from more neutral sites and consecrate them before you use.
 
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