Not happy with the zeus thing

Ashmadeva

Ashmadeva

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This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.
 
Worry not, an advanced member will be here to answer your question and set you straight in the best way. Just know in simple terms this is the way, Satan is Zeus. Father Zevs has many identities. Perhaps you should ask for guidance in a clear, compassionate and respectful way. You will be shown that this is our wonderful religion in the most truthful and pure way, we have moved into the light, out of the enemies context. Meditate more, open yourself up to the magnificence of our Father, our Creator. You will understand this could be the only possible way, the way it was long ago before the enemy.
 
DAX⥀ said:
Worry not, an advanced member will be here to answer your question and set you straight in the best way.
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It does not matter for some people it could be Satan himself or whatever name They identify Him as with and being and it would still be unbelievable for some..

Due to the nature of this whole topic and subject people will need time but a true follower of Satya especially old one and advanced knows that He is all that has been regardless of times and names, one would not debate which God is somehow what and how, instead He will understand that the greatest lesson is to learn about all and carry on with his path towards Enlightenment and Freedom.
 
Another troll cam here to blather incoherently and show how ALLEGEDLY butthurt it is.

Oh boy, here we go again with another drama queen.

I wonder whether we'll be able to identify the troll after its posts.
 
Ashmadeva said:
SHANI HO SHANI!!! lol the mod only accepts stupidity i guess i cant even express myself here
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IQ skill issue on your part. Satan loves what we do here, as we honor Him and expand His presence correctly on earth, all else is coping about it.
 
Ashmadeva said:
SHANI HO SHANI!!! lol the mod only accepts stupidity i guess i cant even express myself here
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Ashamdeva, joined 3 hours ago, has opinions.

I'm sure everyone is fascinated. Do tell us more.
 
Basileus said:
It does not matter for some people it could be Satan himself or whatever name They identify Him as with and being and it would still be unbelievable for some..

Due to the nature of this whole topic and subject people will need time but a true follower of Satya especially old one and advanced knows that He is all that has been regardless of times and names, one would not debate which God is somehow what and how, instead He will understand that the greatest lesson is to learn about all and carry on with his path towards Enlightenment and Freedom.
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So true Brother, in time this person will understand it. For now though, they need to meditate more, cleanse, and open themselves up to our wonderful Gods.
 
Ashmadeva said:
Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus.
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OK, since you said so it is so.
Ashmadeva said:
This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form.
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If you don't accept the change and even don't go to inquire, that's your problem
Ashmadeva said:
This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.
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What makes you think that everyone will believe you that you are proving yourself ignorant?
please go and read the articles
 
All the change of name thing is already explained in many Sermons of High Priest Zevios Metathronos, one need to read these, as these cover all the doubts.
 
You need to step up your understanding in order to continue and not act this childish next time, you are not all knowing, and certainly no authority here.

As explained in the sermon TG Blitzkreig sent, and in many more by the way, often one single God is represented as multiple Gods, but this is also made obvious for the initiated, Greek initiates for example know that Hades, Poseidon, and Zeus are one being, They are all just Zeus, or "God". Saturn and Jupiter are also one God, Zeus, Satan / Baalzebul.

Now as it was explained as well, Baalzebul is Zeus, He is the King, the Ruler, the God over ALL, everything that IS, and Satan is actually a concept of Truth, But God embodies Truth, so God AKA. Zeus is the Truth, so Baalzebul IS Satan. They are not two beeings we have just been calling Him in 2 different names, one meaning Truth, the other meaning Lord Zeus.
 
And what are your credentials, exactly, to come here to order around the brightest minds and souls of humanity, especially HP Zevios Metathronos and HPS Lydia?

You have no power here.
 
Ashmadeva said:
This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.
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This is literally what we told by the Clergy is what the enemy wants so if you wish to leave fine; but this is all a singular movement that is recovering *clears throat* TEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF KNOWLEDGE and doesn't even charge you for it when just the money working is literally what people have sacrificed their own flesh for; that is how corrupted things have been. I couldn't read between the lines myself so I was saved for this as I am sure many people are.

To the Clergy and all involved thank you helping show where ladders cant be built at; not to mention that you actively share the knowledge on how to make or obtain parts yourself.

Satan = truth in gibberish Satya = truth

We stands SOLELY for truth and I'm sorry but I always felt a deep connection philosophers and their faiths.

This kind of dillydalling doesn't work because if it was wrong and if Zeus is real why hasn't it been changed? You think THEY can lose their way. Hero Pythia was such a literal "BADASS" she accented to the point we have a RITUAL FOR HER! Seriously, why would it be hard to understand everything is slowly updated because the Clergy is doing deep impactful work.
 
Devilinside said:
This is literally what we told by the Clergy is what the enemy wants so if you wish to leave fine; but this is all a singular movement that is recovering *clears throat* TEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF KNOWLEDGE and doesn't even charge you for it when just the money working is literally what people have sacrificed their own flesh for; that is how corrupted things have been. I couldn't read between the lines myself so I was saved for this as I am sure many people are.

To the Clergy and all involved thank you helping show where ladders cant be built at; not to mention that you actively share the knowledge on how to make or obtain parts yourself.

Satan = truth in gibberish Satya = truth

We stands SOLELY for truth and I'm sorry but I always felt a deep connection philosophers and their faiths.

This kind of dillydalling doesn't work because if it was wrong and if Zeus is real why hasn't it been changed? You think THEY can lose their way. Hero Pythia was such a literal "BADASS" she accented to the point we have a RITUAL FOR HER! Seriously, why would it be hard to understand everything is slowly updated because the Clergy is doing deep impactful work.
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Also Yes I said Zeus in place of the made up name at the end cause it's an insult to our Head God when He has a name I can call him that is his and it's Heavenly father Zeus instead of using the one that is up to guide us on the what was/made up/done to survive.

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Helleniser said:
"Satan" is a corrupted form of Zeus.

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Satan is related to Saturn. Zeus is related to Jupiter. Now, which planets are ruled by Satan? And why didn’t HPS Pythia tell us about Zeus being Satan these new entites?
Are there people who asked question about Zeus to directy Lucifer, Demons.
I'm not judging just wanting to learn
 
Its not really about Zeus, its about the archetypal family. Focusing on one God makes us no better than the monotheists, squabbling over nothing. The family is the spirit of mankind. The Olympian Gods are the family unit. Each one of them allows us to empathize with all of humanity. Each one of us has our own God at our own time during any stage of our life. Right now my God is Vishnu. I am his avatar on Earth. One day when I have a family, I will be the avatar of Zeus. When I was in my teens it was Horus. Whether we know it or not the Gods always live through us. We have to reclaim the lens through which they do.
 
Ashmadeva said:
This isn't right what you guys did to the original website. Temple of ZEUS? REALLY? im sorry but satan is not zeus. Zeus is more attributed to jupier / indra. The gods of heaven. Satan was more attributed to saturn / venus. This is really gonna throw off newcomers. This website is definitely not the same nor will it ever be until its returned into its orginal form. Dont bring zeus into this why would you? This should be a seperate website altogether because trust me this has nothing to do with satan.
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Thus the truth this Zeus things is not satanism and we are not interested with Zeus things.... Stop Zeus things please
 
Sam Samuel 666 said:
Thus the truth this Zeus things is not satanism and we are not interested with Zeus things.... Stop Zeus things please
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Yes, it is the truth. This was explained by HPZM; please seek out his sermons on the matter.

Beyond Zeus, many Gods have multiple named identities, or a depth of personality much larger than we currently comprehend. This fact alters our conclusion significantly.

It would be more wise to listen to the Clergy more on this matter, therefore, rather than the simplistic classification or evaluation methods used here.
 
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Sam Samuel 666 said:
Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all
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You fundamenetally don't understand what we're about at all. Why is it always the "I've be here for 10 years" types who seem to be completly ignorant of what the JOS/TOZ says? I've only been here for a year and it didn't take me long to understand fully and catch up with our current knowledge, since I not only read the website but asked questions and talked to senior members, as well as through providence came to the correct conclusions on religion.

Have you actually read the TOZ and its claims?

Have you actually spoken to the Guardians and Clergy about these matters, in detail?

Have you bothered to research who Satan actually is, why He is called Satan in the first place by our enemies, and where the name Satan comes from?

Have you bothered to research the history of occultism, where it came from, what the earliest system of magick is, where the words and terms "devil" and "demons" came from, in what context they were used?

Are you aware of the philosophy behind magick itself, how it works, what the Gods are, and all these things?

It's astonishing. It seems like you have a language barrier though, since it appears english isn't your first language by the way you type. You're just being willfully ignorant at this point and acting no better than a xian who shuts their ears.
 
But also, it shouldn't have taken 20 years for the name shift. It should have happened much sooner imo. TOZ was called the JOS for a very long time, so I understand why the sudden shift in names shocked a lot of people.
 
Sam Samuel 666 said:
Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all
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I think it is very important to try to understand other people and what they are trying to say before jumping to conclusions as extreme as you have done. I already replied to your topic earlier that there is a mass of new material, and you clearly need to educate yourself.

Again, Zeus is Satan. Satan is also known as MANY other names during different times and ages.
 
Satan was the central name of our Head God for over 20 years , and now it's just another minor name put in the list of our names for Zeus with the caveat that it is an enemy label. The shift caused shock, as we've seen in the past couple months. It's like living in a house for 20 years and then suddenly in a day the whole family is sent somehwere else, even if it's a better house. There was always going to be strong reactions, especially from those who strongly cling to the Satanic identity as defence mechanism against xianity. This is all the past now, I'm glad though that most understood clearly our Pagan heritage and what the JOS/TOZ was always about. It's about Godhood, not "devil worship".
 
Sam Samuel 666 said:
Then are you saying joy of satan is not spiritual satanism or devil worship group. I joined this occult on 2010 and reveals clear that we are devil worshipper and then now you introduce us another God, Zeus. Its better to create two categories those who believe in God of yours, Zeus and us who believe in Satan. Now we have two different ways. This cause a great tension so please try by all the means to fix the problem. As for me l don't believe in your Zeus things is nonsense to me. And l don't even want to know him at all
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Another one from 2010. Why is it always them that come complaining with 1 week old accounts? Lol
 
Wisdom_Seeker said:
Why is it so hard to understand that Zeus (Perun in Slavic - my people) is another name for Satan?
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Even of Satan weren't Zeus, I'm pretty sure nobody here who read and knew what the JoS teaches would have a major problem with it because Zeus would still be a God on our side. I wouldn't even mind if it was changed to "Temple of Thoth" or "Temple of Athena" because both were ancient Gods on our side. The only reason one would react this way (like "I don't know Zeus and I don't want to know him at all") would be if one is a Christian "Satanist". He even used the term "devil worshipper", so there you have it.
 
Sam Samuel 666 said:
Defination

Zeus is not Satan please.
Satan is the prince of demons and adversary of judio. Satan is traditionally understood as an angel who rebelled against judio god and was moved out of heaven with other “fallen” angels before the creation of humankind.
Zeus is the god of the sky in ancient Greek mythology. As the chief Greek deity, Zeus is considered the ruler, protector, and father of gods and humans.

Zeus is the King of the gods, the most high god and father of gods and man. Though not perfect he is ultimately just. The OT genocidal Yahweh is far more a “Satan” than Zeus ever was.

Then according to this small general definitions how could you believe that Satan is Zeus. Why all those years of worship Satan we did not consider your Zeus thing.

Let us make elections for that who want your Zeus thing (temple of zeus) and those who want Lord Satan (joy of satan)

Hail Satan!
Hail Abbrasax
Hail Balaam
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Well, you are mistaken here, and you refuse to go through the material that has been presented to you as a resource to reflect on indicates that either you lack the mental capacity to consider that things do evolve, or that you are dishonest in your inquiry. Either way, there will not be any elections as ToZ is not a democracy, and these updates have occurred many months ago, with everyone (except select few for no good reason) welcomed wholeheartedly. I mean, just open the Grand Ritual of Zeus to see for yourself, if you are honest here.
 
Check my signature - let it give you some food for thought.

If not, I guess there is nothing for you.
 
I have to say, these threads often turn into cesspools of circlejerking and making fun of people instead of giving actual resources on how to understand the changes and what led to them. Directing people to the appropriate Sermons instead of being inconsiderate and fishing for reactions (however humorous it may be) should be a standard. Forum members should not be here to make fun of others but to promote collective advancement; Guardian Blitzkreig's behavior is exemplary in situations like this, do well to learn from him. I will make a post regarding this soon (a collection of Sermons and FAQ on the changes and explanations etc.) once I finish my Sermon categorization. We are all human but please do not get lost in "fun" or peer pressure, the only pressure we should feel in this case is adherence to our Ethics. We all make mistakes; look forward to improve and help others instead of drowning in guilt.

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For Returning Members

"We want to be part of this Golden Age transition and herald it as its bringers, and I officially declare, that anything that represents the enemy context will progressively disappear.
We must refuse to dwell on anything that has its roots in the interpolations of the enemy. " - High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Temple of Zeus Announcement and Q&A by High Priest Zevios Metathronos (Explaining the changes, etc.):
Temple Of Zeus Is Now Live
Official Live AMA Video from ToZ
Answering Concerns About ToZ [The Other Side Of It]
Climb To The Gods: We Won't Dumb It Down

Baal Zebul/Baalzebul vs Satan/Lucifer (Both are the same God):
ZEVISTS: Our New Name, Zeus & Thunder Power - Sat & Zev
Plutarch & Herodotus - Who Are The Gods?
Zeus, Satya, Reforms & The Time Before "Satanism" - Moving Into the Golden Age [Update 1: Resources]
The Tripartite Nature Of Zeus: Satan/Beelzebul & Satanic Lore

What happened to HPS Pythia?:
About HPS Pythia And The JoS
New Rituals & Schedule Now Live: HPS Pythia's Ritual & Lord Balaam's Ritual

What Happened to the Other Inactive Clergy:
Demotion of Clergy - New Rules
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Sam Samuel 666 said:
Defination

Zeus is not Satan please.
Satan is the prince of demons and adversary of judio. Satan is traditionally understood as an angel who rebelled against judio god and was moved out of heaven with other “fallen” angels before the creation of humankind.
Zeus is the god of the sky in ancient Greek mythology. As the chief Greek deity, Zeus is considered the ruler, protector, and father of gods and humans.

Zeus is the King of the gods, the most high god and father of gods and man. Though not perfect he is ultimately just. The OT genocidal Yahweh is far more a “Satan” than Zeus ever was.

Then according to this small general definitions how could you believe that Satan is Zeus. Why all those years of worship Satan we did not consider your Zeus thing.

Let us make elections for that who want your Zeus thing (temple of zeus) and those who want Lord Satan (joy of satan)

Hail Satan!
Hail Abbrasax
Hail Balaam
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High Priestess Pythia, Our Founder has written since 2002, that our Demons are the pre-xian Pagan Gods, predating xianity by thousands of years.

She understood and discovered since the earliest beginnings of our Temple that the Demons are prominent Egyptian Gods and Gods from other Pantheons.

With further research over the past decades, we definitely know the many names of The True God, our Head God Zeus, Amon, who was also called Satan in the past few thousand years.

We, thanks to High Priest Zevios's continued work and research, and the contributions of our hard working TG's and members to actualize this, have fulfilled High Priestess Pythia's original aim from the first day of our Temples conception, to restore the Ancient pre-xian Pagan Gods to their original stature and Thrones, restoring Their names for the whole world to see and know Them once more, as per the original promise and conception of our Temple by our Founder, Lady Pythia.

The Gods, and our founder smile upon us for the great work achieved, for finally people can know the real Truth as it has always been since time immemorial, fully restoring the Ancient knowledge our Great Ancestors have always known.

We exist as we have always been. Enemy context on any of our knowledge has always been irrelevant. They are nothing in front of the Gods and even us.
 
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