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I have no idea where I'm going to have the Satanic Community, but it will most likeley be in america, I'm thinking about Salem, Massachusettes....last time we had a settlement there things worked out great, but seriously, I think it would be cool to start there so that we can take back what is...

You could Summon Anubis and ask him to protect your grandmother so she can be re-incarnated.

I agree with Allison, this sounds like it's of the enemy, unless the interpertation of "vessel" is meaning "boat" as in a bunch of us.

pick up Salem Burkes "The fourth ritual" and make a talisman.

I love extending my Satanic family, right now I'm planning on gathering a bunch of money (don't worry, I'm not asking you to send me money) so I can get I large property in a secluded area with a bunch of properties built on the land and definately some horse stables and whatever else me and the...

It depends on what the Lion did in your dream, or what your subconscience is trying to tell you. I've had dreams of an enourmous 6 foot falcon on my back deck where I sit and meditate, I still have no idea if it meant anything or not, best thing you can do is keep a dream journal, then you...

I agree with Rocco, I would suggest making a talisman (as outlined in Salem Burke's "The Fourth Ritual") for you to win the lottery, tell her about it before you do it, the she'll go "holy fucking shit, this is for real" or she'll think you stole it...but whatever, either way, maybe give her a...

It wouldn't hurt to do the ritual again on the astral

I've wanted to do something like this for a while now, I'm glad someone shares my vision. I'm definateley going to help you reach your goal. Right now I live in Sandwich, Illinois, but we are moving soon, I may be able to convince my mom to move to Sacramento. (that's actually a big...

You said nothing has changed....so before you were a Satanist, I'm assuming you were depressed. I know this may sound a bit harsh, but Satanism is not about expectation, it's about intent. You are WAY too down on yourself. Look at the posotive side of things. Disregard the negativity, sure...

1st off, if you have a new idea about life, or you're different in any way, hell even if you're not different, people are going to find things about you to hate. People that you lose over trivial things like different views are pretty pathetic, that shows a great deal of intolerance...

After a while Satan Himself will be your mentor/ As for the whole blood thing, I wouldn't suggest drinking blood, you might catch something.....and that only fuels the judeo-christian misconceptions of Satanism.

void meditation also what helped me was just putting my hands over my face and decribing what I fetl, down to the most insignificant details.

I feel like a falure because the 1st few times I meditated, I could feel the energy, so much I could even bring myself to the point where it would over-stimulate me, now when I meditate I get nothing. What's wrong with me?

If you've seen the curse of the nazerene on JoS you know what a niding pole is. What I propose is that we not make niding poles NOT to kill the stupifyed xians, but rather open their eyes to the lies that they've built their pathetic lives on. ************Construction************** 1)...

The dediation ritual

So we've had this xian picture of jesus (http://i41.tinypic.com/2nv8qdz.jpg) in our family for a while and I told my mom that I took it to goodwill with the other crap. But the frame is beautiful and I want to put a Baphomet in it. I understand that I can clean off the xian energy by drawing...

wow, why am I surprised by their stupidity? they even have a section that tells them how to properley judge people. this site made me laugh at them so much.....then the grim reality set in, it amazes me how stupid we could become, so many follow this moronic drivel and take it seriously.

Any God or "god-figure" would be an extra-terestrial, since, they are an extra being. He is a physical as you or I, we are all masses of energy and so is he, yet to see a spritual being you need to view it through a spiritual eye, this doesn't nessesarily go for hearing, yet this can be...

I also want to point out that the actual Satanama meditation is here http://www.anmolmehta.com/blog/2009/09/ ... editation/

I know I was the one who kept posting how Satanama was Enkis name, sorry...after reading that it was a yoga mantra, I remembered this tantric yoga video I saw a while back ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE2t1Fdy ... r_embedded ) That talked about using an mantra called "Satnam" then I...

Why not? If you want His sigil tattooed on you get it. I havn't felt anymore or less of a closeness with Father Satan because of the tattoo, this comes with meditating on his spirit.

I've had the same shit happen, but I just answer the questions and put the link on the bottom, then they'll suspend you (that's standard presedure), then write them a letter about how this is descrimination against religion blah blah blah, tell them your dad is a cop, and your account should be...

Don't worry, I've got plans, once I test it out I'll share my devistating vision

Sadly enough I went to one of these camps when I was younger and I felt the energy that we raised at camp and contributed it to "jhvh" then two days later the feeling was gone, these kids are probably going to think as soon as that feeling leaves that they need to get it back by doing favors for...

thanx!

I know we've all seen the music video for this camp, but look at all this, this video actually shows what they're telling these kids. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STDH14a ... re=related <object width="480" height="385"<param name="movie"...

There's no set time as to when you're supposed to do it, but you can also wait until Summer Solstice (June 23-24) if you want (Solstices are great for doing dedications) also, most rituals should be done at 3:00 a.m. or 12:00 a.m. unless you're working with the planets.

you'll know, if not, look for the reason why you may not be advancing, remember this isn't like xianity, we don't use Satan as a crutch, 1st look for the problem, really dig and you'll find it, and you will advance. In the begining it's hard, but just keep giving it your all and more...

read JoS up and down, same with https://templeofzeus.org/LiturgicalTerms.php , that will lay down the ground work to your faith quite well, then you can go on to read the books that Pythia sites on JoS and Exposing christianity. Also go to JoyofSatan and click "Join Hells Army" and do the...

just write how you feel to Father Enki during a ritual and show your dedication, by meditating everyday and constantly advancing.

I was reading Salem Burkes "The fourth ritual", and I'm confused about the "Friday" and "Frinight" I would assume it means a.m. and p.m. but then he wrote that he wanted to discourage us from using the time that we are used to...so what did you, or what did Salem Burke mean? Also, after I...

They dare force you to pray? and threaten you with being fired if you don't? You know what you should do, bring a tape recorder into work when they try to force you to pray again, just stay calm and hit the record button on the recorder in your pocket, make it seem like you're the victim as...

1. do the dedication ritual...after you study 2. jesus really wasn't as "perfect" as the bible wants to picture him, ever stop to think why you don't worship his father as a perfect being....oh yea, he slaughtered millions upon millions. Jeremiah 48:10 "Cursed be he who does the Lords work...

What color should I see the serpants?

Wichever you feel close to, but you're probably not going to see a Demon since it will be your first time, remember to not get discouraged.

STDs are most likeley man made, before that 20th century, nobody had ever heard that you could get diseases from sex. Now it's the xian way to say "and that's what sex does to people."

You don't need to "gain" Father Satans love, this isn't christianity, nobody has to die to be accepted. Satan loves all His children. Just do rituals every week and meditate on His pressence whether it be after or during the ritual. Same with the Gods.

I used a feather that I found for my dedication. Royal or Electric blue would be best to substitute black, Father Satan understands our situations.

1) sounds like your lover is a grey rather than a Demon 2) just get your shit together, I've noticed that I act like a complete fucking idiot sometimes and i hate it and I know Father Satan hates it, but you can't let that shit bring you down, fuck what the pychic said, fuck what the greys have...

First off, remember, you are the attacker and he is your victim. As a Satanist, you have a free-thinking mind and should never be intimidated by someone who's life is bound by the bible, digging up dirt on xians is easy, since all their shit is laid out in the bible...and you can throw it in...

Is Apep a Demon who got a bad reputation or an enemy? Is Apophis even still alive?

I posted a question on here about Leviathan not too long ago and someone told me that he is not a Dragon, He's a Giant, like Anubis. Leviathan came to be the seven-headed Serpent, because the old grimores had to write everything as an allegory or they would be slaughtered for their beliefs, the...

1st off, just about every Satanist in here has had an experiance with Satan and/or the Demons in a posotive way. Secondly, the most ancient Deity discovered was Deity in a cave dating back to the Paleolithic age, the Deity had horns like antlers( horns had been a sign of divinity, throughout...

wonderful sermons, good job

Any g(G)od of any religion would be considered an extraterrestrial, because it's an extra being.

I wonder if anyone's contracted the herp from the black stone

1st off, asking questions is never stupid, this shows you have a craving for knowledge and that's what Satanism is about. Don't worry, your dedication still counts, Father Satan isn't conserned with massive amounts of blood (like the xian fairy tales tell you) it's about DNA. You don't have to...

you should show a picture of these "scribblings" Secondly, if this was me, I would be creeped out and I'd simply Say "If you are not of Father Satan then I banish you in the Name of the Almighty Satan, and the Gods of Duat! Hail Satan, Hail The Gods of Duat!"

I assume by "god" you mean the jhvh thoughtform (not an actual being). Sounds like a standard nightmare attack by the enemy. Build your aura of protection more and they'll stop.

I love to toy with the xians who message me...I've got one where I made fun of him for being a virgin and he flipped out, I can't wait for his response to my last message...it's so easy to strip away the glue that holds their fragile minds together. :)hehe

before you start with the "6-6-6 breathing" watch you breath, visualize it as a blue stream going in and out of your nose (or mouth), but don't breathe consiously, just breath like you normally would and you'll start to notice your thoughts slowing down.

next time be sure to add detail and I can help you more in depth. http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/FAQ.html http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... oning.html

ask them they're the "Wiccan/Satanist" to me, no, that's like saying you want to be a christian-muzlim

Really mother fucker?! I was warned about you being an infiltrator, now I'm sure of it. Post any more bullshit that condones your fucking "god" and you're never going to wake up. Got it.

This takes time. The kundalini has a mind of it's own, but will only raise when Father Satan wants it to. Kundalini Yoga will help, same with Hatha, the 5 Tibetians...and maybe even some Denise Richards Pilates and yoga :)

I don't know how many times I've said this same exact thing; Enki's Sanskrit name was SATANAMA (Sa=Life, Ta=Truth, Na=Death, and Ma=Rebirth) until the authors of the bible and the hebrew language worked together to cut His name short at death and brand him "the adversary." Hail Satan fuck...

oh I know, I just saw the xian bullshit that he tried to post....xian fear tactics and concperacy theorys are so ridiculously stupid.

my aunt lives in virginia

get soemthing in electric blue or the entire Al-Jilwah on your side down to your ankle don't get anything retarded though, like a pentagram or an inverted cross on your forehead, anywhere eles is cool

Since you're new I'd suggest studying all you can and just "beat around the bush" when it comes to questions about religion.

if you have the slightest "off" feeling it's probly not a Demon, it could just be an xian created thoughtform or something of that nature....don't give into things like that, just brush it off as paranoya, there's no use paying attention to something like that if it's not directley affecting you.

this is the shit that I hate, the media makes a huge deal if someone did something wrong and they happen to have a copy of the Satanisc bible...but if they went on a mass killing spree after church, they never make it seem like church fueled them to kill people.

I would suggest, not mentioning it at work, because they'll more than likeley be cocksuckers about it and find some bs reason to fire you. I would just act like an atheist and talk about how the bible was stolen from the ancient texts.

the initiation rites are diane vera's doing, she thinks that Satan and the Demons are "evil" so she suggests initiating yourself before dedicating yourself...I find this kind of offensive, because you're basically doing a half-assed dedication ritual.

Enki is Satan, Enki's Sanskrit name was SATANAMA (Sa=Life, Ta=Truth, Na=Death, and Ma=Rebirth) the authors of the bible cut his name short at death and branded him "the adversary." I would say to hold off on summoning until you're dedicated.

like I tell everyone who asks about Laveyn Satanism, Lavey was an Athiest, you can't put wings on a pig and call it a swan

If your husband is a distraction and a thorn in your side, cut him out of your life. Satanists don't scrape the bottom of the barrel for a companion, we aim our sights high. Help yourself by finding somebody better.

he probably went "Oh, shit! those Demons I invoked were real...looks like I know nothing about True Satanism." the rest of the video made me lol

If you think somethings trying tyo attach itself to your heart chakra, snap the connecting tube, fill your hand with strong, thick blue energy and snap the tube. As for your mom being taken over by angels, do a banishing ritual in your house.

1. yes, the dedication should come before anything 2. I have yet to do this, but I'm sure all you have to do is ask The Father or a Messanger Demon to ask the Demon/ess you want to have relations with, but remember to be specific, if you want a monogomous relationship, be sure to state that...

Satan and your gaurdian can guide you, to find your guardian find wich element is dominant in you (you can check the characteristics of the elements under advanced meditations), your guardian will have the same element as you and you should be drawn to them in some way, also whatever sex you...

not at all, rebuke this "blessing" the preist has cursed you with in the name of Father Satan. Next time just calmly tell you parents that you don't believe what they do, you don't have to say you're a Satanist. Satan's not going to hurl a lightning bolt at you, Satan is very...

your astral vision is fine, don't ever think for a second that anyone or anything can stop you from advancing. My advice would be to just visulize an outline of a circle, once you can visualize the outline for about 5 minutes without any "breaks" add color, five more minutes later, make it a...

Meditation and the Demons have been helping me out alot lateley and I feel so free and happy now, except when I get around a certain "friend". When I get around this person I feel bound. This person is a definate pschic vampire (in the Laveyn sence), he looks for flaws in not just me, but other...

I don't think there's going to be an "end times" or anything, The Mayan calander ends that day, thsi shows that a Change of some sort is going to happen. People are afraid of change so they contorted it into big conspiracy theorys. 2012 is the age of the Sun(and fire), wich Satan rules. If...

churches always try to do under hand shit like excommunicating people, because they can't have anyone go to church that doesn't fit their pretty little picture of an all american family. I remember back when I was being forced to go to church we had a transexual come to our church a few times...

wtf are you talking about? LOOK AT ALL THESE FUCKING CHURCHES AROUND YOU!!!!!! You've got plenty of shit to do. Fighting the enemy doesn't always mean killing them, we can turn an entire congregation into Satanists.

Should we recognize March 17th (now known as saint patricks day) as the Day of Osiris, I was doing some research and discovered that March 17th of the Egyptian year was the day Osiris was slain (hinting to Easter being after it, where we celebrate Isis/Astaroth, who ressurected Him....this is...

How do I develope a CLOSE relationship with my Guardian and the Demons?

good idea or horifically devistating?

I love when xians think they can win a debate with "god" on their side, look at what an epic fail that was. (I'm Rammesses, the xian is conveniantley name christian...I think I'll name by son budist...I wonder who started this retarded fad) Christian: hello Brother 10:18amRammesses lol...

You can do a dedication, and do daily rituals (wheter it be physical or in your astral temple)

Ssoooo...

Next time your mom tries to use the Lord Satan as her Scapegoat, ask her where the proof is that it was Satan and not jesus. Then when she points to her bible say "No, Fuck that, I want real stone cold evidence, if that book is true, there should be some facts to back it up!" (although this...

if you're talking about people who don't believe the same as us, no. If you mean xians....I'm not quite shure, I think if they preach, just shove their bullshit down their throat and cut them out, if they know you wil not change and are willing to accept that...I'm not sure

I live in snadwich illinois

once you've done what Blake said, ask Satan Himself, or one of the Demons if they will help you direct this energy to the person(s) who killed your grandfather.

nope, just have complete and utter confidence in yourself and your working, even if it doesn't feel or look that way....if it's not going to happen, it won't hurt to have confidence in it anyways. HAIL SATAN

In the old grimores most things had to be disquised as an allegory. The giant hemaphodite (showing the power of male and female forces combined)serpent(kundalini) having 7 heads (chakras). They needed something to be an allegory for this, so they chose an already existing Demon who appeared as a...

"Light is Darkness flipped insideout" - Baal Zebul Green energy represents money, love, beauty, abundance, material gain, pleasure, indulgence, success ect. As for the Wicca thing...Wicca is basically a carbon copy of Satanism for the idiots who believe Satan is a christian invention. I...

I started the facebook group called "Exposing christianity" and I put up a picture of the Satanic Pride flag. I spent Hours copying exposing christianitys pages and even added in some of my own expericances http://www.facebook.com/editalbum.php?a ...

trust in Satan

show me these fucks

Don't make yourself the victim, rise up and defy these fools, assert yourself to the top and laugh at the xians (be sure to study at https://templeofzeus.org/LiturgicalTerms.php so you can make smartass remarks to them) If you really feel like shit, heal yourself...

get over your problems, meditate everyday, and don't think like that, thinking in a negative way, will only end with disaster, get your shit together, and know that the Father doesn't hate you, Satan helps those who help themselves.

Definateley study on https://templeofzeus.org/LiturgicalTerms.php or JoS or even email me If you go into this just looking for results, you will come up with nothing, it's like meditation, it's about intent, not expectation. I would suggest you stay away from summoning a Demon since you're...

...first off, this is a real question and I want your opinion on it.... Are the mentally handicapped reincarnated xians?

that's all I was wondering about.

We could do what they did and slaughter millions upon millions of people....but since we're already labeled as "evil" we can't just say "god told me to" and everything is fine. About christianity thriving in other counrties, of course the broken are going to flock to the nearest crutch...

I don't care if you think I'm worthy or intelligent enough to give you advise or not, I'm going to give you advise, because even though you piss me off you're family. I know how you feel living in a christian home, 1st of all Satan helps those who help temselves, look for a way to make some time...

this lifestyle takes balls, you are going to learn to get over your fears with Satan leading on the left hand path. Remember Satan helps those who help themselves, He will help you with bigger fears, you just have to get over this little one. ~ Rammesses

Do they have to be performed before EVERY ritual? Can I ask Satan to send forth different Demons like Bes and Pazzuzzu to protect my area?

I plan on seriously bringing down these cults, BRING UP YOUR NIDING RODS, EVOKE EVERY LAST DEMON OF HELL AND HEX THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS (not the brainwashed idiots~or fellow Satanists family members, as this could reflect on your brotheren), WE MUST CUT OUT THE CANCER OF OUR WORLD THAT IS...

Will these things into existance, such as a clear mind, but do not force it, be confident in it, do not wait to *feel* it, but know that you are doing what you have intended to do. You want to be powerful like the Gods, will the energy to be as powerful as the Gods!!! You need not *feel* this...

always have faith, it's hard for people like us, because we are always being told that we're wrong...when really the world is just filled with idiots. This is why we have to be strong, the stronger we are, the easier it is to manipulate others.

First of all, those kids just don't understand Satanism obviously, they will not understand if you try to explain. There is no getting through to idiots who get their ideas of Satanism from the bible. Tell them about your choice to be a Satanist, spread your wings and be free, be proud of...

I'm glad you said something about this because I was wondering about it too...and wehn I first started out (back in the days when I took my advice on Satanism from Diana Vera's page ha ...fuck that cunt)and I had no idea about aura of protection and I would smoke, I would get intense angel...

I recentley noticed that I would have to pressure myself to start meditation, that's not how it should be, just relax and forget everything. Now I start off by just lying down and completely relaxing, I light a candle and do void meditation and if I still have pressing thoughts I just lye their...

So I was walking down the street thinking about how I want my astral temple to look, I came up with ravens holding balls of energy bright enough to fill up the room...then I thought, if I could use animals in my astral temple, could I empower animals like a lion or a wolf to guard my temple...

Satan understands that we have issues in our lives...relax, you're not chained to the laws of the anit-understanding idiot "god" jehova...Enki knows that we are not perfect...yet. Don't feel bad, if you have to deal with things, you gotta do what you gotta do. School and work are enevitable...

I recentley asked Father Satan to send me a Guiding/Guardian Demon/Demoness or if I already had one, for the Demon/Demoness to reveal themselves to me...a night or two later I had a dream that my tattoo (Satan's Sigil) rubbed off and someone poured cold water on it for me and it came back, but...

I go on yahoo answers just for the rise I get out of tearing up christians fragile belief structure...I've also grown to love hate mail, it's fun to keep stringing the inferior idiots along...talk to me, my name on yahoo answers is Rammesses666

You are a Satanist though, Sanskrit name was SATANAMA, broken down this is what is means, Sa=Life, Ta=Truth, Na=Death, Ma=Rebirth. We are not wrong to call Him Satan, because of where the name comes from, besides, both Satan and Lucifer are incorect names for the Father, but He doesn't mind be...

Materials? you have all the materials you'll need, a mind and a soul. Meditate daily to increase your...you know what since you're new, go through the Hells Army training program AVE SATANAMA!

yea but that version sucks

how? and do you think I'd be able to drain an angel of it's power...We could DESIMATE these fucks by taking their power right?????

I completely agree with you, that's why yesterday I thought about making a dark/romantic version of Alice in wonderland, called "Alice in Wonderland: Bad Trip" Then said, "fuck that idea, I'm going to make a movie like this about Satanism" I'm not going to flat out say anything about...

look at the tears jesus causes, nobody looks happy. They all look pathetic. I feel bad for these people...This is exactly why we need to destroy the leaders, the brainwashing fucks need to die.

You're fine. I think that Leviathan has been showing Himself more recentley, when I focused on Him (I was debating if He was real or just an allagorie for the kundalini serpent) He roared at me with a powerful voice. Some kid on yahoo answers got ahold of me and he had automatically drawn, what...

I recently read about how I can rip out someones heart chakra, clean it off and absorb it's energy into my own heart chakra...could I do this to an angel/grey too?

We are a family and familys get in arguments, we can express our views, as we are all entitled to our own opinion, but nobody here should hold a grudge. **Sticks and Stones** We have to fight the real enemy; Xian Leaders, we must scramble their minds like they have done to the masses

THAT'S GOING ON MY WALL nice job

program your aura to reflect their negative energies right back into their auras then clean your aura when you get home. If this is an everyday thing then close your chakras before you go around them.

I've been on worthy chat, I hate how long it takes to make a profile, just to fuck with xian scum.... I just remembered I can go on the free no registration chat rooms (that you can find on google) because they won't recognize this computer...bye

I stand outside the church and smoke some gonj...you might not want to because you like having a GF ....this is tough, but Satan is very understanding of our circumstances. It won't be "breaking the rules" if you do go, remember; "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." You could...

I want to start a Coven, but the only other Satanist in my town is my friend Luke, but he's not into rituals and things because he still believes the lies of the bible...whatever Anyways, My Name's Dave. I live in Sandwich, Illinois (no the streets aren't made of peanut-butter and...

I was just thinking about Enki's Father today...I haven't read the Lost book of Enki all the way through yet, but I wanted to know if it would be ok to invoke or summon Him and what happened to the link on JoS for Mammon is it busted or did you guys take it down?

I recently came up with a new "cleansing" ritual that I took from Diana Veras webpage and revised ... but I have nothing good to say about her since she rips on JoS out of jealousy, if you look at the bad things she has to say about JoS and then actually read what JoS has to say you'll...

the link above will give you an excellent meditation for meditating with earth energies remember to give back the energy when you're done if you've got too much energy. If you worked with your pineal gland or your 3rd eye it's common to have a headache afterwards, try doing some relaxing...

PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!!!!!!!! I hope you enjoy getting everything you've based your pathetic life on torn to shreds....Hexes for all of you xian scum :) HAIL SATAN!

Be patient, these relationships will build over time, as a newley dedicated Satanist myself, I've realized that daily meditation and rituals (if possible) will improve our relationship with Father Satan and the Demons, right now maybe work on using a pendulum...but like anything, this takes time...

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--- In , "Krzysiek" <kgrzedziel@... wrote: I'm stealing some of those jokes and saving those pictures, I've never laughed so hard in front of the computer

a psychic vampire can be anyone who tries to put you in a certain circumstance or situation to get you to do what they want (this is why it helps to be calm and detached from the situation)...or someone who feeds off your negative energy, like people who are constantly looking to get a rise out...

of course, masterbation is fine

Does it play into Satanism like Egyptian Theology? If so, please explain how?

I like the earth meditation, I'm gonna go try it out

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/10/tex ... +Recent%29 I love how the one guy says, "I was taught to have more respect for church than that."

wow. Your Guardian is telling you that you need to develop these abilities because this way we can open our soul (open the seals of our closed chakras) and eventually reach Magnum Opus, wich is spiritual perfection. This isn't something you can rush into though, just take your time. You had a...

You probably won't see anything during your dedication ritual, because you most likely haven't done alot of work with your 3rd eye, if you've even opened it. Fuck the Satanic Bible and Laveyn Satanism...the satanic bible has some good things to say about "self-empowerment" but the Enochian...

haha 88 ;) I know what you mean about testing us, I was at school yesterday and these people were talking about the bible so I started laughing and then this feeeling of empowerment came over me, it was pushing me to go over their and tear them apart....I could have so easily (like I did to...

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